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10-13-2010 , 05:58 AM

Immy

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 167

Opp is 31/14, 3b 1-27, call 3b 50%, Agr 0.7/2.5/3.0, cbet flop 17, cbet turn 100, Ch-r turn 0. 71 hands.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($283)
Hero ($225.40)
BTN ($197.35)
SB ($197)
BB ($120.80)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is CO J

1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: 8

($13, 2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero calls $7

Turn: 4

($27, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $50, Hero ???

10-13-2010 , 06:33 AM

Ramdon

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,681

stack a donk line ... continue if ur a donk obviously

also why on earth are you giving call 3b stat??

10-13-2010 , 07:23 AM

SykoraG

adept

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 867

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramdon

stack a donk line ... continue if ur a donk obviously

also why on earth are you giving call 3b stat??

no ... call you have position

10-13-2010 , 07:43 AM

guitarizt

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,676

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoraG

no ... call you have position

lol srsly? You're always behind here when someone with his stats takes this line on this board. Probably drawing dead. Let it go and I'd bet half pot on the turn to get draws and weaker hands to call.

10-13-2010 , 07:58 AM

makan

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 472

I fold

10-13-2010 , 11:37 AM

duh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,741

i checkback turn almost always

10-13-2010 , 12:15 PM

jay b.

adept

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,044

Quote:

Originally Posted by duh

i checkback turn almost always

how come? what are we suppose to be afraid of before seeing this c/r.

10-13-2010 , 12:17 PM

jay b.

adept

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,044

his line is wayyy too fishy, board doesnt hit anything, i wouldn't fold yet

10-13-2010 , 12:27 PM

duh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,741

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay b.

what are we suppose to be afraid of before seeing this c/r.

getting c/r'ed....

besides that, his flop aggression is so low, you could easily be beat on the flop (u can't take AK out of his range). and u don't beat much that c/c turn. call me an old school nit, but I pot control this one.

10-13-2010 , 01:08 PM

#10

sharkbaitOHH

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 7,170

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoraG

no ... call you have position

lol position when river is a half psb

10-13-2010 , 03:01 PM

#11

Oct0puz

adept

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 841

Quote:

Originally Posted by duh

getting c/r'ed....

besides that, his flop aggression is so low, you could easily be beat on the flop (u can't take AK out of his range). and u don't beat much that c/c turn. call me an old school nit, but I pot control this one.

I don't know in what games you play but when a fish leads here we have the best hand like 90% of the time, so no reason to check on the turn.

Obv. his range changes when he c/r us. I would probably fold to his small raise, but call if he shoved.

10-13-2010 , 03:04 PM

#12

RainbowBright

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,344

Quote:

Originally Posted by duh

old school nit.

10-13-2010 , 05:03 PM

#13

Immy

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 167

It looks like JT or fdraw for me, so I jamed. But he showed to me KdQd. I think and comments too, that vs this opp it is 50-50 decision for only 70 hands. Isnt true?

10-13-2010 , 05:10 PM

#14

SykoraG

adept

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 867

damn I thought we had KJ diamonds

10-13-2010 , 05:20 PM

#15

Immy

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 167

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoraG

damn I thought we had KJ diamonds

If we had it, we cant speak about call, JAM JAM JAM!

10-13-2010 , 05:21 PM

#16

loose_passive

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by duh

i checkback turn almost always

don't do this.

standard b/f spot imo

10-13-2010 , 05:24 PM

#17

loose_passive

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 12

Also the fact we have the Jd takes out a lot of his combo draws making it even more of a fold.

10-13-2010 , 05:58 PM

#18

duh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,741

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immy

But he showed to me KdQd.

wtf did you expect him to have?

10-13-2010 , 05:59 PM

#19

duh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,741

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oct0puz

I don't know in what games you play but when a fish leads here we have the best hand like 90% of the time

It ain't 2005 anymore. These days even fish know to lead their monsters.

10-13-2010 , 07:27 PM

#20

shpanko

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,924

bet/fold turn seems good against this guy. he'll be c/c'ing the turn enough for a value bet to be profitable while you can fold to his c/r and feel pretty good about it.

10-13-2010 , 08:35 PM

#21

bilbo-san

Angry Hobbit

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,900

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoraG

no ... call you have position

there's like no money left, position is pretty meaningless

10-14-2010 , 04:57 AM

#22

Kalledrengen

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,919

I'm folding. I doubt someone this passive has enough air/draws/worse made hands in his range for us to be able to call here.

10-14-2010 , 06:40 AM

#23

Immy

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 167

ty all

10-14-2010 , 06:48 AM

#24

zion1alpha

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 510

Quote:

Originally Posted by duh

i checkback turn almost always

this def.

10-14-2010 , 12:12 PM

#25

Gaszzzz

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,935

if we had the diamonds jamming doesn't make any sense, he will continue bluffs on diamonds

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