The guy with the short stack is a fish 45/16
the other dude is a reg leplepsnail something
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Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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CO: $208.00
BTN: $83.35
SB: $141.60
BB: $237.65
Hero (UTG): $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 8 8
Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, BTN calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) J Q 8 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $18, BTN folds, SB calls $18, BB calls $18

Turn: ($78.00) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($78.00) Q (3 players)
SB bets $51, BB raises to $213.65 all in,

he cant be iso-ing without boat can he?

do you fold to blank river?

given fish stack size i might bet turn some

he can

his call in the relative last postion on this kinda flop is never ever QJ
i call

99 j9 q9 89

if he sucks enough to shove with a st8 then he will also have qj jj or qq here too-i doubt he has kt too

OP have you seen reg iso fish action before?

99 is the only hand that he can legally have that beat us

J9 is air ( QJ he will c/r or donkt the drawy flop with the fish 100%)
98 is air (Q9 he will play the same way as QJ)

he can def have QJ

you check QJ 3 way on this flop with a fish in the pot ?
because what ?

sorry when i said Q9 i meant Q8

given that action the only hands that make sense is 99 and Q9, so i call

edit: i call because he does this with Tx often enough to be profitable

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+ fish money is likely to be also complete in the pot

who said anything about legal? this is 100nl and he is in pos

This is close. IMO Q9 is the only hand that the BB reg could get to this river with that beats us and there's only 6 pos combos of that, and only 3 if the SB has a Q. The SB fish could def be checking the turn to raise with a T and could now be leading the riv with a Q as well. If we (reasonably) assume that we beat the fish and that he'll never fold, we only need to be good 32% of the time vs the reg here meaning that we only need the BB to have 1-2 combos in his range that we beat to make this a profitable call. Therefore we need the reg to be shoving some Ts vs the fish - if we think he's capable of doing that on a paired board with the PFR behind then it's a call. If not it's a clear fold as we beat nothing.

THe thing is he`s should allmost allways CR closing the action with like 2p+ all his strong hands (our range is pretty strong we`d never cbet the flop without at least GSD+ i believe). He can play KTs like that for sure, which makes me wanna call, cose boats that have us beat dont make much sense at all.

ok from the BB's perspective what would induce him to shove and why is it better than flatting if he doesn't have a boat?

fish will still call and they will chop the pot- which means he is trying to iso us out of the pot; which doesn't make any sense because if he had a strait then he would just flat hoping we call with trips aa kk etc. so we hope he is bluff raising a fish who has $10 behind and hoping we fold out boats? Which means that he is willing to risk his entire stack with a strait to gain $10 more?

We can easily have a flopped set.
I think everyone is discounting the fact that the fish has a str8
BB has a boat or OP left out that BB is a crappy reg

I think i call. Im only really worried about Q9s, Doubt he overcalls flop with 99 and QJ always raises flop on this board. I think its a pretty bad turn check if he has any straight but most people are bad.

just b/c i wouldnt doesnt mean that everyone plays perfect. maybe he was multitabling and didnt realize the fish was in, maybe he just clicked check by w/out putting much thought into it because he had a tough decision on another table. i'm just saying that because he "should" lead or c/r doesn't mean that he will 100 percent of the time.

I think everyone is discounting the fact that the fish 4/5 times has a str8 with only $10 behind

OK im very open to being wrong but can someone please elaborate why BB would raise allin knowing this