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03-11-2010 , 08:33 AM

Reemix

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,930

Everest No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Everest Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

CO ($291.90)
Hero (Button) ($610)
SB ($598)
BB ($603.20)
UTG ($394.35) 22/19/4 - 834
MP ($214.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, J

UTG bets $7, 1 fold, CO calls $7, Hero raises to $31, 3 folds, CO calls $24

Flop: ($72) 4

, 8

, Q

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $43, CO calls $43

Turn: ($158) K

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $536 (All-In) (CO has $217.9 left on the turn)

CO plays 32/20/1 - #242. Fold to 3-bet % is 83 (10/12). This hand was in the beginning of the session so no real history between us.

03-11-2010 , 08:44 AM

orpz

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,599

why do you overbet?

03-11-2010 , 08:48 AM

CCM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,528

I don't like this. You can get him off pps with a smaller bet so the only hand you get more fold equity against is AJ.

$90/fold seems fine on the turn if you want to bet

03-11-2010 , 08:48 AM

Reemix

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,930

Quote:

Originally Posted by orpz

why do you overbet?

well I would do the same with my value hands

03-11-2010 , 09:13 AM

super skunk

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 319

id bet ~60 on the flop

03-11-2010 , 09:14 AM

Reemix

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,930

Quote:

Originally Posted by super skunk

id bet ~60 on the flop

why so much?

03-11-2010 , 09:26 AM

Ramdon

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,681

60 on the flop is terrible

Anyway ...
When you 3bet this guy it is almost as a pure bluff cuz firstly he is opening a tighter range and secondly he is folding an extremely high percent, so when he calls he has a strong as hell range, plus add in that PP's/AQ (which is most of his range) are never folding now, i wouldn't even bet the flop against this guy

On the turn you can definitely bet a little under half his remaining stack ~100 and he will fold most of those and u save urself another 117 when he shows up with KQ or slow played KK

03-11-2010 , 09:29 AM

super skunk

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 319

if you bet 62 on the flop the pot will be 166 on the turn and youll have 163 behind. makes our second barrels more profitable and we arent left in awkward pot to stack ratios

EDIT: not familiar with those pokertracker numbers and didint even see that blue font at first so maybe 62/shove is a mistake. although if someone is only calling 3bets exttremely tight i wouldnt 3bet him with aj

Last edited by super skunk; 03-11-2010 at 09:36 AM.

03-11-2010 , 10:52 AM

craiggerz

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,487

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reemix

well I would do the same with my value hands

So?

03-11-2010 , 12:37 PM

#10

-C-P-

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,288

It's not terrible but it works way better when you're both deep and bet $200 into 160 and then follow through with another PSB/overbet on the river. As it is, stack sizes are a little awkward.

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