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08-01-2010 , 08:58 PM
Villain seems a little on the nittier side for your average 200nl reg playing 18/13 over 1k hands. His 3bet is 5%.

I dont think he ever has AA here but he definatly could have flat called preflop with QQ since im opening UTG and hes alot tighter.

Question is do we play this a little passively and check/call it down on safe cards or should we be trying to get the money in on the flop.


Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $403.55
CO: $44.85
BTN: $694.95
SB: $277.90
BB: $60.00
Hero (UTG): $476.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN calls $6, SB calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20.00) Q 9 A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, BTN raises to $48, SB folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero ???
08-01-2010 , 09:12 PM
9 combos of AQ, 3 combos of QQ (which he doesn't have all of), maybe A9dd too, I would 3b flop (and be willing to stack off obv)
08-01-2010 , 09:24 PM
yeah def 3betting.
08-01-2010 , 09:27 PM
pushing more money in, if he has it (QQ) we just have to pay the man off imho
08-02-2010 , 12:00 AM
lol at folding bottom set on board like that...honestly cmon
08-02-2010 , 12:06 AM
Even if you are 250bb deep how often is he really flatting QQ pre?

Such a drawy board, way more combinations of 2 pair/big combo draws. 3bet and go with it.
08-02-2010 , 12:17 AM
This is a really easy 3bet. OOP with a strong but vulnerable hand, you don't want to play any guessing games. Get more money in the middle now to charge worse hands and to set up a turn jam (if necessary) on any but the ugliest cards.
08-02-2010 , 07:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mEoAnSeY1
lol at folding bottom set on board like that...honestly cmon
You should learn to read because nowhere does it say anything about folding

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erwino
Question is do we play this a little passively and check/call it down on safe cards or should we be trying to get the money in on the flop.
08-02-2010 , 07:59 AM
nvm my bad, just read the end of the question and assumed the rest

So better go with the hand on the flop imo, quite a few card could either give him a better hand or kill ur action, that deep !
08-02-2010 , 09:41 AM
he has some random K10hh, J10hh,108hh,J8hh,KJhh and maybe some few SChh(which would be bad to 2bet here IP) and maybeeeee J10s as well.
we're oop, with bottom set, we're doing ok against his value range and doing awesome against his semi-bluffs range. yup, I'm getting stacks in.
the only hand that we're behind is QQ which he is 3betting most of the time(im assuming he 3bets AA ALL THE TIME THIS DEEP).
08-02-2010 , 09:49 AM
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

14,850 games 0.016 secs 928,125 games/sec

Board: Ah Qh 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.162% 64.16% 00.00% 9528 0.00 { 9c9h }
Hand 1: 35.838% 35.84% 00.00% 5322 0.00 { QQ, AQs, KhJh, KhTh, JhTh, AQo }


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A tight but reasonable stacking off range for villain this deep^^^

Even if we include EVERY combo of AA, which is clearly unrealistic, it's still a shove:



Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

17,820 games 0.005 secs 3,564,000 games/sec

Board: 9s Qh Ah
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.949% 54.95% 00.00% 9792 0.00 { 9c9h }
Hand 1: 45.051% 45.05% 00.00% 8028 0.00 { AA, QQ, AQs, KhJh, KhTh, JhTh, AQo }
08-02-2010 , 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _JerryD_
pushing more money in, if he has it (QQ) we just have to pay the man off imho
This, more money in asap

      
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