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200NL:  Am i losing value by shoving? 200NL:  Am i losing value by shoving?

02-20-2009 , 03:37 PM
Not sure how to get the most value here. Opponent was playing 23/17/2 and folded to 3 bet 58%.

One one hand I like shoving because if he is check raising with a draw, AA, or KK he is getting it in on the flop... and I would hate to call and have a diamond roll off.

On the other hand I think it is possible he has air here but I guess if I call he will most likely give up anyways right?

Do you shove or do you just call and try to get him to spew off more monies on the turn?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($416)
BB ($200)
UTG ($267.65)
Hero (MP) ($465.65)
Button ($200)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
UTG raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, UTG calls $14

Flop: ($43) 2, Q, 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $24, UTG raises to $58, Hero raises to $445.65 (All-In)
02-20-2009 , 03:39 PM
pretty huge overbet to shove, so yeah you are def missing value.
02-20-2009 , 03:45 PM
It's not that big of an overshove....he's only raising $200 more into a $150 pot. But I still think you are better off getting it in on the turn.
02-20-2009 , 03:46 PM
Alot of draws out there and your taking down 85 uncontested.... I like it. From the action it looks like someone may pay you off.

      
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