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200NL- Am I a fish for going broke with a set bvb here? 200NL- Am I a fish for going broke with a set bvb here?

09-07-2007 , 02:41 PM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $375.45
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $206.25
CO: $58.80
BTN: $235.70

Reads: Villain is 18/14/4 over 250 hands but it happened a few days ago so I have no other info. Turn raise should have been larger.

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5 5 (5 Players)
3 folds, SB raises to $6.00, Hero calls $4.00

Flop: ($12) 8 5 9 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10.00, SB calls $10.00

Turn: ($32) A (2 Players)
SB bets $12.00, Hero raises to $44.00, SB calls $32.00

River: ($120) 7 (2 Players)
SB bets all-in for $315.45, Hero calls all-in for $140.00
09-07-2007 , 02:45 PM
Looks good.
09-07-2007 , 02:46 PM
I mean, he's repping only JT (not even clubs), and I think I'd get stacked the first time and make a note for another time.

If we were playing PLO I'd fold .
09-07-2007 , 02:48 PM
meh, i couldnt fold this. really bizarre line. I'd be interested in results actually. 56 would be my guess.
09-07-2007 , 02:53 PM
I'm not worried about JT, I'm more worried about a 6 or pocket 7's. Tough one, and even though with a good read this is a fold, without one there are too many excuses available that make this a call.
09-07-2007 , 02:55 PM
I 3-bet this pre. Is that bad?

SMS
09-07-2007 , 02:56 PM
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I 3-bet this pre. Is that bad?

SMS
I sometimes do that. But I've started floating people a lot so when the flop comes a certain way I call the flop and bet the turn if checked to.
09-07-2007 , 03:03 PM
Mixing it up between calling and raising pre is what I do, and I definitely call the river unless I have a very good read.
09-07-2007 , 03:17 PM
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Mixing it up between calling and raising pre is what I do, and I definitely call the river unless I have a very good read.
Ditto.
09-07-2007 , 03:19 PM
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I mean, he's repping only JT (not even clubs), and I think I'd get stacked the first time and make a note for another time.

If we were playing PLO I'd fold .
A6 maybe? I'd still go broke and not feel too bad about it.
09-07-2007 , 03:26 PM
What's villain's range that we beat here? Including vb's and bluffs?
09-07-2007 , 03:31 PM
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If we were playing PLO I'd fold .
this is key
09-07-2007 , 04:10 PM
Exactly what his range is here and what he's thinking is unknown since you don't have a read on him and it is a blinds battle.
I don't think he would do this with two pair hands very much. Your turn raise basically says to him that you have a good made hand and his weak lead then call line says I am drawing. However, he might have a weak draw and have decided that he will bluff a bad river card of which there are many. Because you have to think he is drawing, it is a good card for him to bluff. I def think 66 and 77 should be in his range on the river, but there are a lot of weak hands that he should be bluffing there as well as hands with a 6 and of course JcTc.
It is so close in my mind that I would fold some of the time and call some of the time, maybe 50:50 and be fine with the decision either way.
A rr to 18 or 20 pf would have made all this much easier.
09-09-2007 , 09:02 AM
I actually folded on the river.

I'm sure his hand was a draw by the river because on the turn he shoves all-in w/ > 1 pair since he wouldn't block-bet/call turn just to open shove 4 to a straight river card. His flop play was very odd by c/c and by the river it really seemed like his hand was JT because 96 or 86 is never getting to the river like that (turn bet/call). Also, on the flop JT isn't an amazing hand w/ that FD out there. I can't imagine him c/c a combo draw on that flop.

Also, does he really play a FD that passively then go crazy on the river with a big bluff? Also, he can't expect someone to fold a great hand to a shove on that river as it looks like a bluff. Maybe I'm totally out there but bottom set just doesn't seem too great based on his play. I can't think of many hands I'm ahead of.
09-09-2007 , 04:46 PM
Looks good to me. If he somehow rivered you, then he's the fish.

      
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