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200nl: 3 barrel vs decent reg

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02-08-2009 , 10:32 PM

Clashes

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 678

Party Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 32158
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CO: $197.00
BTN: $294.80
SB: $122.75
BB: $462.25
Hero (UTG): $219.35

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with K

Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($15.00) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12.00, BB calls $12

Turn: ($39.00) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30.00, BB calls $30

River: ($99.00) 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $75.00,

Villain is playing 24/15, low af. I don't really see too many hands that can jut check/call the flop and then 3 more streets...thoughts?

02-08-2009 , 10:52 PM

Spurious

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I guess its a decent spot to 3barrel.

02-08-2009 , 10:53 PM

eX3cution

old hand

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nh.

02-08-2009 , 11:11 PM

blackize

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River bet gets called 85%+

02-08-2009 , 11:35 PM

Spurious

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackize

River bet gets called 85%+

i would argue it wont, because the flush draw missed and villain is a tagfish (btw good reg and his stats dont compute), he probably calls turn way too wide, with pair + FD hands and folds all of them on the river.

02-08-2009 , 11:54 PM

Claunchy

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The low AF might give me a little pause, but this is more or less fine.

02-09-2009 , 12:34 AM

GuillaumeM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurious

The flushdraw hit.

02-09-2009 , 01:49 AM

senorbum

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GuillaumeM

The flushdraw hit.

He's not talking about the flop.

02-09-2009 , 01:55 AM

asgharba

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lol flush came, theres a straight out there, and your line makes no sense... if he has half a brain he's calling.

02-09-2009 , 02:13 AM

#10

blackize

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurious

Flush draw hit
No pair + FD hands really make sense unless he's floating AJo OOP or he has something like 77-TT
Tagfish tend to be stations in spots like this
Tagfish can have slowplayed sets that got scared by the turned diamond

02-09-2009 , 05:32 AM

#11

ThreeBigLegs

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 12

I think if he can call the turn Jd he will call a 7s on river.

I think its moderately -EV overall but not a horrible thing to be caught doing - can be image investment later on.

Please post result.

02-09-2009 , 05:39 AM

#12

olesho

journeyman

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Quote:

Flush draw hit

I would probably take FD out of his range. It's a lil bit strange line for flush on turn and river ... unless he is uber passive. If he can't have flush than you may represent it. But this is read dependent.

02-09-2009 , 05:46 AM

#13

El P

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,714

i like it. seems like a stubborn 99 (prob with diamond) or something. not likely better than 1pr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by asgharba

lol flush came, theres a straight out there, and your line makes no sense... if he has half a brain he's calling.

so we can never have a flush or JJ or AA???

02-09-2009 , 07:14 AM

#14

jmill

Freak you Bobo Fett

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asgharba

lol flush came, theres a straight out there, and your line makes no sense... if he has half a brain he's calling.

And he's not betting 3 streets with his value hands because why?

02-09-2009 , 09:49 AM

#15

Inf1n1tY

old hand

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You are betting the river again w/ any decent TP+ so its a good spot to triple IF you are sure he is weak and capable of folding.

I dont like your betsizing tho.

either make it 80-90 or like half pot.

02-09-2009 , 09:52 AM

#16

Spurious

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shove on the river isnt that bad either

02-09-2009 , 11:15 AM

#17

Clashes

grinder

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Results: villain calls, shows AJ no diamond

02-09-2009 , 11:20 AM

#18

TeddyPicker

grinder

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In that case its a good spot to 3 barrell vs him, if he floats flop oop this wide, he will be peeling tons on FD's and pair + FD's on turn, making the river nice and profitable.

02-09-2009 , 02:28 PM

#19

Thrahl

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I like the 2nd barel but I'm dont after that.

02-09-2009 , 03:10 PM

#20

ogabay

old hand

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I don't think he is folding much after he calls the turn bet. At least in theory he shouldn't be because you are representing such a small range and that river card really doesn't help your range at all. Despite that fact, people make bad plays so I think you will still get a lot of folds on the river. But it is pretty marginal.

02-09-2009 , 03:14 PM

#21

StewiesMinion

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Without a more specific read on the villian than his PF stats, I think you're just increasing your variance for what might be at best a slightly +EV play.

If I am going to regularly play vs this villian, it is much better, but in a vaccum I'd look for a better spot.

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