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05-30-2008 , 10:44 AM
Villain runs around 20/18 3bets 10% preflop att to steal 31. On another table about 10 mins prior to this hand I raised utg w 1010, 2 callers, villain Squeezes in BB w AQo. He shoves to my 4 bet which I instantly call and hold up.
I'm also on a few of villains other tables, pretty active and he probably views me as aggro.

I will sometimes 3 bet this preflop against an aggresive stealer but decided to simply call. Thoughts on the flop please and of course the turn.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $239.45
SB: $111.05
Hero (BB): $428.60
UTG: $300.90
CO: $200

Pre-Flop: Q K dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, BTN raises to $7, SB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) 5 K 6 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $11, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($37) A (2 Players)
Hero bets $25, BTN raises to $76,

Hero?
05-30-2008 , 10:48 AM
flops fine, c/r is also fine. probably c/r given he's really aggro.

i don't like the turn lead at all unless you were planning to induce. i'd probably c/c turn against an aggro reg by default.

Last edited by spivey; 05-30-2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason: edit left out turn action
05-30-2008 , 10:56 AM
Turn lead is ???
05-30-2008 , 11:01 AM
yup ok

Turn: ($37) A (2 Players)
Hero bets $25, BTN raises to $76, Hero raises to $410.60 and is All-In
05-30-2008 , 11:19 AM
What better hands are you folding? I dont like it.

Im guessing the bet/3b was your intention with the turn donk right? Otherwise i wouldnt like it.
05-30-2008 , 11:22 AM
Wow. Pushing here is really pretty bad IMO. He has taken every opportunity to put money into this pot and raised a turn bet. What makes you think that AK/AQ isn't a large portion of his range here.

This is a pretty standard b/f for me.

Thoughts
SMS
05-30-2008 , 11:23 AM
wat?

I don't really get your turn b3b tbh. When he puts in a raise I think his range is polarized between strong Aces/2pr+ and air (maybe some draws), and I really doubt he folds anything he's raising for value to your shove since a) he has half his stack in there, b) you have history and c) From villains perspective you don't really rep much other than mayyyybe AXhh.

The only way I see this move being +EV is if the villain has some sort of draw and will call off on the turn, but you don't think he'll jam the river when he misses.

IMO, I c/c the flop and c/c the turn again since any decent reg will be barreling this card like always.
05-30-2008 , 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthro
any decent reg will be barreling this card like always.
EXACTLY and I have history with villain. Everybody knows that a donklead is generally weak and that an Ace is a good card to bluff on.
05-30-2008 , 11:37 AM
I dont hate this as villian is prob folding some Ax hands on the turn here and he could have air some decent % of the time. if villains stack was even a little bit smaller though dont think id like it much as he'd be forced to call with the btm. end of his range.
05-30-2008 , 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by primate
EXACTLY and I have history with villain. Everybody knows that a donklead is generally weak and that an Ace is a good card to bluff on.
OK, but when you raise all in you're turning your hand into a bluff. Not only aren't you getting any more value out of worse hands, but you're only getting called by better hands.
05-30-2008 , 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmers28
OK, but when you raise all in you're turning your hand into a bluff. Not only aren't you getting any more value out of worse hands, but you're only getting called by better hands.
look at that board texture on the turn. Do you seriously think I want to see another card oop come the river? And its defo NOT a bluff. I think I have the best hand and I'm protecting it. There are LOTS of worse hands that will call my shove.
05-30-2008 , 11:58 AM
CR flop
05-30-2008 , 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by primate
look at that board texture on the turn. Do you seriously think I want to see another card oop come the river? And its defo NOT a bluff. I think I have the best hand and I'm protecting it. There are LOTS of worse hands that will call my shove.

wow i thought b/3b turn was good for totally the opposite reason like villian would have a hard time calling with like some ace rag hands and such, but he IS prob calling turn push with some draws you beat. But you know your history better than I. you think he is calling with like KT here?
05-30-2008 , 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by primate
EXACTLY and I have history with villain. Everybody knows that a donklead is generally weak and that an Ace is a good card to bluff on.
This is why i c/c turn and probably c/c most rivers. Sounds like you have tons of SD value against this guy. b3b really turns your hand into a bluff where i cant see you gettin called by many hands your beat. With history i can see him bettin worse here but callin raises w/ worse on this board probably not.
05-30-2008 , 12:11 PM
why on earth would you donk at a card that he is going to bluff at like 95% of the time...
05-30-2008 , 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaGrunt
CR flop
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