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[100NL ZOOM] QQ vs UTG open

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01-11-2013 , 01:00 PM

joker4

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UTG is 24/17/f3b:3(6)/4b:2(6) over 293 hds

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $105.86 (105.9 bb)
SB: $105 (105 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $102 (102 bb)
MP: $176.59 (176.6 bb)
CO: $60.08 (60.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

UTG raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, UTG raises to $20.63, Hero ??

Pretty standard spot but I'm new to NL100.

What is your standard line here against a "standard" reg? And what against this particular villain?

Call, 3b/shove 3b/c or 3b/f?

Tbh I'm not super happy to get QQ in vs UTG. Against this particular guy it seems reasonable because he has a 4b history. What do you think?

Thanks in advance!

01-11-2013 , 01:02 PM

PeoplesElbow

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if your 3betting queens here its to get it in obv, if your not super happy to get it in pre flop flat flop.

pretty standard concept but i forgive you as you said your new to 100nl, but this should apply to most levels if not all.

01-11-2013 , 01:12 PM

samcx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PeoplesElbow

Exception is obv if we have a large sample & Villain is flatting 3b's a ton & only 4betting once in a blue moon but we just don't have the history here so yeah you have to get it in now. If you're not super happy just flat it.

01-11-2013 , 01:34 PM

F_Ivanovic

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Don't see why we have to get it in pre-flop now we've 3bet or just flat initially. We're still getting value from this hand by 3betting it most of the time.

Obv if you 4bet this hand then it's with the intention of getting it in (would be a massive mistake to fold) but having only invested $8 if we put UTG on a range of QQ+ and AKs then it's fine to fold. If UTG is wider than this then we can obv never fold. (like add in AKo and JJ) plus the occasional bluff

01-11-2013 , 01:43 PM

joker4

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Hi,

thanks for the replies!

3b-fold is certainly bad. Do you think 3b/get-it-in is better than flatting vs this particular villain / what about a "standard" reg? (Sorry, I should have put the question marks to the spot where I 3bet to make that more clear.)

Is 3b/call4b ever an option or is this totally ******ed? This guy might have a 4b-bluffing range which he could continue bluffing otf.