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08-23-2010 , 01:56 PM

thakid16

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 555

villain 19/16/3 w/ 4% 3b
f2cb 67% over 300, no history

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $101.50
MP: $100.00
CO: $112.15
BTN: $105.55
SB: $102.00
BB: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BTN calls $3, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) J

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $19, Hero calls $12.50

Turn: ($48.00) T

(2 players)
SB bets $80 all in, Hero folds

standard vs such villain i assume?

08-23-2010 , 02:01 PM

ppatak

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 392

Your kidding right? Unless I read that incorrectly, that there is an easy call. If he has quad then god bless him. But never folding here.

08-23-2010 , 02:46 PM

apetilt

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 494

WTF

08-23-2010 , 03:27 PM

LOLDONKBETZ

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,924

line check? yeah dont fold

08-23-2010 , 03:40 PM

LeperLeper

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 492

Well, pre and flop seem standard...

08-23-2010 , 03:42 PM

shpanko

Carpal \'Tunnel

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lol wat?

08-23-2010 , 03:44 PM

shpanko

Carpal \'Tunnel

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If my math is correct he has to have quads a bit over 30% of the time to make this a fold. Come on now nobody ever has quads.

08-23-2010 , 04:03 PM

pacman0608

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 256

Must be a level.

08-23-2010 , 04:08 PM

Oct0puz

adept

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 841

I think that even TT is a fold.

08-23-2010 , 04:59 PM

#10

thakid16

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 555

hmm i kinda thought at least a few people might have been in the fold boat, and no its not a level

i'm kinda interested as to what hands people think he's taking this line with, if it was a standard turn bet i probably wouldn't have posted.

08-23-2010 , 05:32 PM

#11

cheapthrills

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 30

Is it supposed to say A10 or AA? otherwise I cannot see how you fold here.

As someone said he has to have quads about 30% of the time to make this +EV.

He likely had a Jack too and was maybe trying an overbet to look like a bluff.

Just because a player is tight doesn't mean you only play the nuts when they check-raise. If you assume he had the flopped boat from 10-10 then such a player is likely to flat the flop IMO and check-raise the turn as he would have a completely safe, made hand.

Even though he has shoved all in I cannot see how you fold to one specific hand here.

08-24-2010 , 09:30 AM

#12

Tezor

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 9

Had similiar hand today

Called turn shove

I had AhKh

Flop: 8d 8h Kd
Turn: Ks
River: 5s

Fishy showed 6sQc

08-24-2010 , 09:42 AM

#13

Kimpan

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,064

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ

line check? yeah dont fold

Nice avatar............................................ ........

08-24-2010 , 09:43 AM

#14

Malfunction

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,719

Obv put villain on KcQc and reducing variance.

08-24-2010 , 09:46 AM

#15

Blix

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,749

terrible fold. wtf if he has quads so be it but man....how do you ever fold there???

08-24-2010 , 09:48 AM

#16

Blix

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,749

also what kind of an idiot would raise the flop w fh and then overbetshove w quads

08-24-2010 , 11:24 AM

#17

thatssosick

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,443

are you ****ing serious

08-24-2010 , 11:58 AM

#18

Blix

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,749

to make something out of this send the hh to villain, he will bluff the crap outta you

08-24-2010 , 12:27 PM

#19

CCM

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,528

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blix

to make something out of this send the hh to villain, he will bluff the crap outta you

Don't think so because he appears to be an idiot. Looks like villain has a jack but is playing the turn like this to make you think he is bluffing. I'm not saying it looks like a bluff, but in play people often think irrationally.

Also wouldn't surprise me at all to see AA here lol

08-24-2010 , 12:33 PM

#20

Bonk

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facepalm.jpg

08-24-2010 , 12:40 PM

#21

CyberianBull

grinder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonk

facepalm.jpg

and

08-24-2010 , 12:42 PM

#22

thakid16

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 555

villain being winning thinking reg, change anyones opinions?

i just don't see him semi bluffing KQs when board double pairs due to his nitty nature. + if he was semi bluffing i'd assume he wouldn't over jam turn when any T/J could easily be in my range, (instead bet smaller to rep strength) after b/c'ing multi-way.

over jamming anything but quads seems retarted and i guess i gave villain to much credit and out leveled myself