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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($101)
BB ($101)
CO ($74.50)
Hero ($106)

Dealt to Hero K Q

fold, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $11.10, fold, Hero calls $8.10

FLOP ($23.20) 2 J 4

SB bets $11, Hero raises to $25, SB calls $14

TURN ($73.20) 2 J 4 Q

SB checks, Hero . . .


Villain is running 22/20/7% 3bet over 300 hands. His 3bet vs BTN, however, is 24% (over 33 opportunities). He probably views me as having a high fold to 3bet %, so I expect him to have a very polarized 3betting range. The BB did look like a reg, though, so it's possible that the SB is 3betting some hands that he would normally flat vs me to avoid getting squeezed.

The flop seemed like a decent spot for a bluff raise specifically to get him off of A high. Once he calls, we have to give him credit for something like JX+, and some flush draws (though he might just shove these on the flop). On the turn, we have $65 effective stacks. I'm not sure if I want to bet or check back. Betting feels right, but I don't know if there are enough combos of worse hands that he can call me with.

Meh I think you have to check an see what the gods do on the river. I wouldn't mind getting to showdown now tbh, maybe bet river if he checks and its a total blank.

Bet the rest for sure

I like a jam here, if you check through and the river blanks, and he jams, do you plan on folding? I think that youre missing value by checking through/allowing yourself to get bluffed on a lot of rivers. You could get calls from AJ-J9, any JxXc, 66-1010, So I think this is a jam and hope for a tank call.

I also like a float on this flop rather than a bluff raise unless youre planning bet/3bet jamming, because your value range is too narrow to be able to rep much.

I agree that we are repping a narrow range when we raise this flop, but I think the weakness of his range and the perceived strength of my 3bet calling range make raising reasonable. Flatting gets more attractive if we hold the Kc or Qc, I think.

Flop raise seems pretty FPS

Besides folding I'd rather flat flop to rep a wider and more credible range of made hands.

With villain's sizing, and not much potential for the hand, raising looks okay if villain isn't the type to try to hold on for too long. I would check turn, though.

Your point is moot. Villain wouldn't shove worse hands (bluffcatchers) or any bluffs.

really don't like flop raise because you rep nothing and as played, check down i think. i'm trying to think of anything you beat... aj, but i think aj will be folding to overcard 3flush turn jam a lot. i also don't think he is going to turn a marginal hand into a bluff or try to thin value bet it after that turn rolls off

He probably shoves flop with club draws, so i think we are up against AJ, and maybe a few KJo say 16 combos, and some JJ-AA hands say 10 combos, and maybe TT. so if we shove here even as a bluff it only needs to work 47% of the time so would be +EV anyway? Isn't it better to shove and hope he calls?
Or am i missing something here?

[X] Playing KQo vs a TAG 7% 3b'er is gonna end along the lines of fml

Fold pre is fine.

fold pre dude. KQo is horrible vs 3 bet. as played, i like checking back and bet non club/non A river. call if he bets.

Even vs a 24% 3bet vs BTN(33 samples)?

if you have played enough 6 max game, go to your holdemmanager filter, go to more filter, select faced preflop 3bet = true. check your KQo, it should be losing money in the long term. self explanatory

you picked a horrible hand to bluff raise the flop with

just fold the flop, you have like no equity

4bet pre imo, folds out all the weak aces he's 3betting with and you have strong blockers
as played fire the turn, it's thin but you pretty much have to bet imo

wow do not fold pre, call is more than fine.

i like jamming turn as played, don't really mind raising flop but would probably prefer calling it.

Villain is 24% 3b in this spot. That's also including the times a station was in the BTN, or a total fish. His 3b range vs regs should be even higher, maybe as much as 40%. Folding KQo in that spot IN POSITION is just asking to be run over.

35 dorra.

yeah looks fine ship turn pot is big you dont want to give free cards and youd be continuing your bluff here often, right?

don't agree with the preflop call here. either 4bet or fold. as played i would ship turn to prevent his possible club draw to complete.

This was my thinking as well. I guess I could 4bet bluff with this hand, but I'd rather do it with A9o and K8s type hands.

Without more reads on his 3betting range and his postflop tendencies in 3bet pots, I think I agree with just turning it into a 4bet bluff since the K and Q blockers make this a great hand to bluff with. I mean if you call the 3bet and flop top pair and he keeps betting, you're gonna feel pretty lost in the hand.

the matter of fact is that he DOESNT KNOW that you fold the KQo.