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12-29-2009 , 06:47 AM

Oh_Boy

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Sb seems to be a tag...leaning toward nitty. not much info on the bb, prob should have 3bet to like 23 but eh small detail

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $103.20
UTG: $103.20
MP: $100.00
CO: $104.50
Hero (BTN): $103.00
SB: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with J

3 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.00) 5

(3 players)
SB bets $7, BB calls $7, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $197 all in, BB calls $93.20 all in

Final Pot: $229.40

12-29-2009 , 06:52 AM

adamx001

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 558

fold

12-29-2009 , 06:55 AM

Nitrub

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raise/fold sucks

12-29-2009 , 07:03 AM

adamx001

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 558

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitrub

raise/fold sucks

i agree in general, but in this case we can't really do much else as not raising flop would be even worse and i'm raise/calling against one villain but not against two, which is a pretty rare case so i don't care

12-29-2009 , 07:05 AM

surGeonFFS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitrub

raise/fold sucks

Raise/calling into 2 people sucks even worse

Easy fold. At best you're a slight favorite, most likely you're drawing to two outs. It's not likely that they both had flush draws when their calling range from the blinds exclude a lot of suited drawing hands while all pocket pairs are calling. raising this flop is fine. I would call against against SB, but not when BB comes along.

12-29-2009 , 07:07 AM

Nitrub

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yea I would just call flop

12-29-2009 , 07:08 AM

AnonyOne

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,100

As played this is a super clear fold, you're almost always crushed here.

The real interesting part IMO is the first flop decision. TAGs and especially nits do not donkbet these boards very often as a bluff or with a weak draw. From what I've seen it's usually a very strong draw or a set. I actually think I prefer a call over a raise.

12-29-2009 , 09:22 AM

JackOfPain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitrub

yea I would just call flop

this.. but flop is fold as played

12-29-2009 , 09:25 AM

Gary_Neville

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I disagree with call flop with JJ on this board since there are many turn cards you wouldn't like 3way. Raise/call against one opponent (in this case BB since SB is an it) is probably the best line but raise/fold against two opponents is fine too.

12-29-2009 , 09:27 AM

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DONGERR

centurion

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 188

this is the most standard fold ever

12-29-2009 , 09:31 AM

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CCM

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Just call the flop. Our equity is pretty crappy vs nearly all donk/shoving ranges.

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