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10-27-2008 , 07:48 AM

klior

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 947

33/7/30%af over 300 hands

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $128.28
UTG: $124.16
Hero (CO): $108.20
BTN: $151.35
SB: $49.99

Pre-Flop: A

dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) Q

(2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $8, UTG calls $8

Turn: ($26.50) 8

(2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $17, UTG calls $17

River: ($60.50) 8

(2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $32, UTG raises to $70, Hero folds

10-27-2008 , 08:20 AM

dogtuna

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 270

i think i call, 98, T8, 85 are in his range for sure and odds are too good

10-27-2008 , 11:07 AM

klink10k

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,721

check the turn, call the river here.

10-27-2008 , 11:55 AM

klior

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 947

I really think I have to charge draws as they are a big part of his range on this board. Am I wrong in betting turn?

10-27-2008 , 12:43 PM

klink10k

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Quote:

Originally Posted by klior

I really think I have to charge draws as they are a big part of his range on this board. Am I wrong in betting turn?

he can have Qx, JJ/TT/99 with the same frequency as he can have a draw here if not more, and i think he is shipping all his good draws on the flop.

10-27-2008 , 01:44 PM

Gambi

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 350

0,3 af (or do i misread this?) fish shipping a draw? o_0
Call river imo, even a bluff is in his range (fishes love these spots as far as i know)

10-27-2008 , 02:02 PM

klior

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 947

He plays 33/7pre flop raise with a 30%af (hem stat) 36% is about normal tag aggression. 30% is pretty low. loose passiv guys don't really shove with flush draws like ever.

Since he raise 8% of his hands I don't think JJ or TT is in his range. Mby 99.

10-27-2008 , 02:06 PM

HolteR

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would be happy with a call

10-27-2008 , 02:17 PM

doripoker

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Are you betting the turn for value or as a 2barrel bluff?
As played I think you have to call the river, you are beat some of the time but given the price to call I think it's almost mandatory.

10-27-2008 , 05:29 PM

#10

klior

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 947

Im betting the turn for value. Wouldnt make much sense if it was as a bluff. I don't expect him to fold something better.

10-27-2008 , 05:31 PM

#11

Lechero79

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 247

Quote:

Originally Posted by klink10k

check the turn, call the river here.

Yeah, seems the standard line.

10-27-2008 , 09:48 PM

#12

TPTK77

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,438

put more pressure on the turn if you want a fold. i bet $20-$22 here.

as played, i call bc fishy villain can be minraising worse 8x hands. you are getting great odds to call as well.

10-27-2008 , 10:23 PM

#13

RockyGravel

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 64

I like a check on the turn call river.

10-27-2008 , 10:51 PM

#14

fgg

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 278

just call and hope

10-28-2008 , 09:23 AM

#15

coxquinn

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yeah, wtf this is like 100% check turn and call river

10-28-2008 , 07:00 PM

#16

whatevba88

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FWIW I like betting the turn as well, for value as there are a few draws out there as well. Plus to option to hopefully check behind a card 9 or higher on the river where if you checked turn, might induce a bluff you can't call.

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