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100nl - KQ - standard? 100nl - KQ - standard?

12-08-2008 , 04:31 PM
UTG is a passive donk.
SB is a TAG.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $55.10
SB: $100.90
Hero (BB): $165.65
UTG: $28.05
CO: $65.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K Q
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $4, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.00) 2 K 6 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($27.00) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($67.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Folding KQ in position pre is weak here, right? Or does UTG being in the pot change the dynamics enough to fold?
12-08-2008 , 04:38 PM
I'd vbet this river. Looks like you want a sd so in his spot I'd vbet AK all day long. Bet 32 on the river. fd missed also that's why I like a bet even more
12-08-2008 , 04:40 PM
Folding pre is weak, I think you could even 3bet here.
And definitely throw in a value bet on the river.
12-08-2008 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by murmeltier21
I'd vbet this river. Looks like you want a sd so in his spot I'd vbet AK all day long. Bet 32 on the river. fd missed also that's why I like a bet even more
I understand why to bet that the draw missed, but our hand is just too weak to vbet. Checking is certainly fine on river, what worse hand is he getting to river this way that's calling? kj seems like only hand that can think about calling us, but it doesn't seem he can be much stronger. having to b/f qk sucks on this board and we can't call a raise and not much value betting soooo check.
12-08-2008 , 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by killer_kill
I understand why to bet that the draw missed, but our hand is just too weak to vbet. Checking is certainly fine on river, what worse hand is he getting to river this way that's calling? kj seems like only hand that can think about calling us, but it doesn't seem he can be much stronger. having to b/f qk sucks on this board and we can't call a raise and not much value betting soooo check.
this is bvb so noooo way I'm cb this river. Not knowing what to do against a c/r doesn't make this less of a vbet. Other than that I really don't see him c/ring for value here all that often
12-08-2008 , 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by murmeltier21
this is bvb so noooo way I'm cb this river. Not knowing what to do against a c/r doesn't make this less of a vbet. Other than that I really don't see him c/ring for value here all that often
bvb exactly...he's peeling with so many hands that you beat, let along worse Ks

if you dont bet you are missing value

i also 3bet this pre a decent amount of time

      
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