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06-12-2008 , 06:12 PM

klior

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 947

CO plays 60/20/3 and has already min raised me in the this way three times over some 150 hands. BU has similiar stats but doesn't play as agressive. I believe his flat calling range here is very wide since he's in almost every pot PF.

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $100
CO: $208.34
BTN: $49
SB: $100
BB: $51.07
UTG: $27.14

Pre-Flop: J

dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.50, CO raises to $7, BTN calls $7, 2 folds Hero ???

06-12-2008 , 06:42 PM

ILikeTrees

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,302

call, play poker. the minraise is either dog ****, or its AA/KK, so just call and outplay him on the flop. obv. you're not making this an all-in hand, so you'll have to check as street somwhere, or bet size appropriately. you'll have to fold really broadway heavy boards, but if theres like 1 Q above you, you have the best hand a decent amount of the time. but still, analyze based on his actions and what his feasible hands are.

06-12-2008 , 07:06 PM

jr4284

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,247

dude the BTN has $44 left after he flatted the 3b and you say his range isn't incredibly strong, especially compared to our holding. Let's try to get his money. With CO being LAG spew-monkey, I'm 4-betting this every time pretty big. I think I make it $35, committing the BTN if he calls, and if the CO calls, it leaves me a PSB to shove any flop.

06-12-2008 , 10:31 PM

RavenPokerTraining

banned

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 59

I don't see a problem with a 4bet. I like a raise to 28 and fold to 5bet from CO and obv call vs. Btn. We don't want to play a 3way pot in the middle w/ JJ here. Use the leverage we have with the BB playing short in this hand. CO isn't going to 5bet ai w/ anything but QQ+ or AK. We're going to fold the best hand if he has AK, but he may very well just call in fear that you 4bet as well. In that case, you can reeval on the flop. It depends if Btn. is in the hand, but if BB were to raise, you're almost always beaten.

06-12-2008 , 10:34 PM

Sniiii

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,533

I usually 4bet this. Not only because I think our hand is the best, but also because I want to know where we are; a 4bet here gives us loads of information. If CO shoves obviously we're folding, but I reckon a 4bet is the best play and makes it a lot easier for ourselves.

06-13-2008 , 02:17 AM

FishSticks

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,829

when you have like 99-JJ and you have a guy that min3bets often behind you, if you let him min3bet you and you flat and c/f overcard flops a lot, he's kind of pwning you. doesn't mean you have to 4bet always, just pointing this out.

here i would 4bet i think. often times he's going to fold and bb will just call it off because he's a fish.

06-13-2008 , 05:40 AM

1fineday

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,667

4bet

06-13-2008 , 08:42 AM

klior

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 947

As played: But are we really 4-bet folding this? Against the tightest of ranges qq+,AK we have 36% equity and we have $68 to call into a pot of $190?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $100
CO: $208.34
BTN: $49
SB: $100
BB: $51.07
UTG: $27.14

Pre-Flop: J

dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.50, CO raises to $7, BTN calls $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $32, CO raises to $208.34 and is All-In, BTN calls $42 and is All-In, Heroooooooo has $68 left

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