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100NL: Bluffing off stack in a monotone flop w/ pair and nut flush draw. 100NL: Bluffing off stack in a monotone flop w/ pair and nut flush draw.

12-30-2009 , 06:38 AM
Do I go ahead and shove the river to what seems like and Ace. No history on the guy.


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $106.00
BTN: $100.00
SB: $115.80
Hero (BB): $121.50
UTG: $161.45
MP: $101.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K J
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) J 9 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $8

Turn: ($30.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, BTN calls $22

River: ($74.50) 5 (2 players)
[color=red]Hero ??
12-30-2009 , 07:09 AM
I see no reason to c/r flop. Why are u doing it?
I c/c flop,perhaps c/c turn or donk if i hit flush w/e.

As played he is folding nothing on the river that beats you.
12-30-2009 , 07:18 AM
Bluffing here seems very bad/spewy.
What do you think his check-raise calling range is on the flop ?
Just saying bare ace is pretty bad imo since the bare ace is the pure bottom of his range ( he might be peeling sometimes with flushdraws but this becomes unlikely since you have the Kc).
His range is sets, two pair, A with FD, made flushes, and sometimes flushdraws.
He flats the turn, river is a blank so with his big hands he'll be snapping you off. We're not even sure he's folding his A without info.
This is a pretty clear give up, check/fold imo
12-30-2009 , 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobao
I see no reason to c/r flop. Why are u doing it?
I c/c flop,perhaps c/c turn or donk if i hit flush w/e.

As played he is folding nothing on the river that beats you.
Exactly this. You're wasting the value of your hand by turning it into a bluff on the flop, when there are so many other easier ways to play it. If you're beat, he's probably not folding, and if you're ahead, it's the kind of board where it won't be that difficult to navigate it to showdown, as people don't really go crazy without a hand on boards like this. You have second pair with the nut flush draw, so there's hardly anything to "protect" against if you are ahead.
01-01-2010 , 06:52 AM
Thanks. Bad play by me, I ran into the stone cold NUTS. AA.

      
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