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09-04-2009 , 01:27 AM

Lego05

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Villain is 17/13/5.5; 3bet = 9% OVER 100 hands. He's 3bet me a couple of times. I believe this is the first time I 4bet him.

Is anyone thinking about trying anything on this turn? We got the Jc.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $347.85
MP: $100.00
Hero (CO): $147.65
BTN: $104.15
SB: $155.50
BB: $177.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with J

2 folds, Hero raises to $4, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26.50, BTN calls $14.50

Flop: ($51.75) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($51.75) 4

(2 players)
Hero ????

09-04-2009 , 01:31 AM

mg0698

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do u think he'll fold AK, AQ if he even has that for some strange reason? those are the only hands u might have a chance of folding i dont think he ever fold a pair.

but i am more incline to just check it down don't think he have any FE

09-04-2009 , 02:58 AM

AdrienD

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yeah, check/fold all the way.
don't see much FE..

I would've 4bet more OOP, like ~30$

09-04-2009 , 03:45 PM

Lego05

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09-04-2009 , 03:53 PM

Nitrub

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dislike pre 9% over 100 hands is nothing.

09-04-2009 , 03:57 PM

Lego05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitrub

dislike pre 9% over 100 hands is nothing.

Well I can't wait a thousand hands to ever play back at one of his 3bets.

09-04-2009 , 04:44 PM

FatKing85

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why do you choose AJ to 4bet him? against his 4bet-calling/5 betting range youre crushed. and i agree, 9% 3bet doesnt say that much over 100 hands, the 17/13 is a much better tendency which would make me assume that he just picked up hands. as played id just give up, dont see him call AK/AQ pre and not folding anything on that flop

09-04-2009 , 04:49 PM

Lego05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FatKing85

I don't expect the 4bets to get called very often. If he 5bets I'm gonna fold. AJ blocks combos of AA,AK,AQ,JJ

09-04-2009 , 04:50 PM

skibbel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lego05

Well I can't wait a thousand hands to ever play back at one of his 3bets.

you can jugde by his pfr% if the 3bet% is likely to be a lower or higher in reality. with your size you need him to fold >52%, so he needs to to 3bet like 8% in this spot to make a 4bet profitable.

I'd wait for for more hands and lookout if he shows down a hand, which shows that he is capable of 3betting light. If he already showed down such a hand, i like a bluff4bet.

Last edited by skibbel; 09-04-2009 at 04:55 PM.

09-04-2009 , 05:37 PM

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Lord_Ferus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lego05

I don't expect the 4bets to get called very often. If he 5bets I'm gonna fold. AJ blocks combos of AA,AK,AQ,JJ

you block 2/3 of theese combos.. so I like your line.. if you are playing c/f on all streets.. cant see that much hands hes calling a 4bet with and folding on this board.. and flop check looks relativ strong to me.

09-04-2009 , 05:41 PM

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AgentIce

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I wouldn't try anything here, you were using AJ as a 4 bet bluffing hand, the actual bluff failed. This isn't the type of board we want to bluff further on. More interesting would be if you flopped the A or if something like a K flopped.

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