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11-08-2007 , 07:36 PM

Tessai

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 150

light reraiser means in the last 30 minutes i saw him reraising proflop a couple of times, no other special read at this point

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A

UTG raises to $4, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $14.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24.5, UTG folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5

($54.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $30, CO raises all-in $74.5, Hero calls.

Turn: K

($203.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $203.5)

River: Q

($203.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $203.5)

Results:
Final pot: $203.5

11-08-2007 , 07:38 PM

JesseW316

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 100

Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

11-08-2007 , 07:39 PM

Kä²°ä®¥n

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,924

raise pot sized PF you doofus.

I think folding overpairs might be a leak in 4bet pots, not sure. I'll ask Antonius.

11-08-2007 , 07:41 PM

orange

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standard.

11-08-2007 , 08:03 PM

Kä²°ä®¥n

Pooh-Bah

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Quote:

standard.

why is PF standard?

11-08-2007 , 08:05 PM

SheepSuit

adept

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,182

Quote:

standard.

why is PF standard?

it's standard for me, is there a topic on 4bet sizing somewhere?

11-08-2007 , 08:09 PM

stickdude

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Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,581

Quote:

Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

What is an optimal 4-bet size, anyway? Anthing bigger than a min-4 bet will leave you with less than 1 PSB on the flop, so you're shoving any flop. Given that, why not just shove preflop? What hands would call a 50BB 4-bet preflop but fold to a 100BB 4-bet?

11-08-2007 , 08:11 PM

Djeorge

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Quote:

standard.

why is PF standard?

it's standard for me, is there a topic on 4bet sizing somewhere?

I think the general concensus is more than the minimum

11-08-2007 , 08:14 PM

stickdude

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,581

Quote:

standard.

why is PF standard?

it's standard for me, is there a topic on 4bet sizing somewhere?

There is now.

Didn't see this post when I posted mine...

11-08-2007 , 08:20 PM

#10

early325

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definitely need to 4-bet more..something between $36 and $44 sounds cute.

11-08-2007 , 08:25 PM

#11

spivey

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I don't see why the 4 betting size matters *too* much, pretty much all the money is going in on the flop anyways.

11-08-2007 , 08:58 PM

#12

el_grande

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,766

seems good but what were the stacks?

11-08-2007 , 09:22 PM

#13

1gotth3nuts

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,596

yeah what are the PF stacks... i raise to like 32 (4bet) and get it in on the flop unless flop is like JQK or somethin

11-08-2007 , 09:27 PM

#14

markuisis

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,453

Quote:

Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

the minraise pre is perfect (maybe a little more but w/e) against this type of opponent especially if hes been 3betting u a lot and it also allows u to 4bet bluff cheaper in the future.

11-08-2007 , 10:08 PM

#15

early325

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I don't see why the 4 betting size matters *too* much, pretty much all the money is going in on the flop anyways.

because you're letting him play correctly by calling with pocket pairs giving him such insane odds..you want your opponents to make mistakes.

11-08-2007 , 10:09 PM

#16

early325

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Quote:

Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

the minraise pre is perfect (maybe a little more but w/e) against this type of opponent especially if hes been 3betting u a lot and it also allows u to 4bet bluff cheaper in the future.

can't really see any hand folding to this 4bet, so i would never recommend 4bet bluffing this tiny..

11-08-2007 , 10:36 PM

#17

spivey

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His odds really aren't great given how little he has behind.

I'd 4 bet larger, but I don't think this is big enough a deal to be harping on as much as it has been in this thread.

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