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Originally Posted by Gorvacofin
I think you contradict yourself somewhat. If you're facing 'multiple street aggression oop' surely setmining becomes very profitable? And almost by definition, if we're setmining, we're going to be folding weak overpairs.
You've basically said it's never going to be profitable to setmine in a HU pot (since setmining will be reap most returns against a strong range, ie UTG).
I agree with you to some extent. Its like the way one of my best poker buddies used to play hands on UB. He would bet pot all the way with sets. He would also bet pot all the way with his bluffs. When asked to explain why he did this, he had a great response:
"Well, when I have a set I figure they will call me down because they will think I'm bluffing since I'm betting so much. When I'm bluffing I bet big so they'll think I have a monster and get away from their hand."
He was a winning player. Why? Because he read board texture and had a good sense of his opponents likely hand range. Also, he played tight and in position. This was years ago.
Its all about hand reading. My advice is geared to combat a solid tag with excellent hand reading skills.
I think typically Hero will be afraid with his sets on most boards and raise the flop, thus only getting the cbet out of villain. With a marginal hand that is best Hero will either fold to the cbet- or check call, and often lose the pot by folding the turn to a bluff. Or sometimes Hero will call the turn, maybe have the best hand, and then have a hard river decision, or face no bet if ahead.
So the river bluffing frequency of villain is a huge part of all of this. But a solid tag will be betting the river with bluffs a fairly optimally % of the time, putting hero in an awful spot. This is game theory.
There is no way to win against a good player passively oop unless you have the nuts (even if you know the bluffing frequency! this is covered in recent 2p2 books).
Also, I guess if Hero can soul read over the internet he could win.