Villian was 24/12/3 with a WTSD of 23 over 400 hands. The turn and river seemed great cards to keep firing at, and I see him calling 2 barrels with lots of 3rd/4th pair + gutshot type hands that just can't call a river bet. Tried to make my river bet look like I was value betting with a flopped straight or set or 2 pair. Thoughts?

Bodog $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $46.00
BTN: $128.50
SB: $109.75
Hero (BB): $106.75
UTG: $108.25
MP: $102.75

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 6 2
4 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.00) 5 4 8 (2 players)
SB bets $2.00, Hero raises to $6.50, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($15.00) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11.00, SB calls $11

River: ($37.00) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24.00

give up on flop.
u have no hand and he's call station.

Disagree. Anyone else?

I agree with UTF.. IF he's a calling station why are u bluffing? Just value bet ur hands theres no need to get fancy.

I think I raise flop 50% of the time, and peel one off the other 50%. I would then probably check-behind on the turn to try to hit my draw. I feel that we lose some value by just giving up on the flop - if villain is a calling station then we have implied odds to at least call flop bet to hit our straight, right?

23% WTSD is not particularly high. Seems like he's not going to showdown without some kind of hand. But, as played I probably do not 3 barrel here. Purely because we are blind vs. blind in an unraised pot. It's really hard for us to know where we're at and it's easy for villain to have a down he'd like to go to showdown with.

wtf ppl? flop is fine imo, i think it's somewhat close between firing another barrel on the turn and checking to see a free card since your draw will be somewhat disguised, especially if the 3 hits...however, i give up on the river once he's called 2 streets

like it. many opponents will fold good one pair hands. you just have to know who it is i think

I like it. they never have anything good when they limp in the sb, and the turn and river are great cards. Sometimes he will have q8 or some such but this works a lot.

I prefer a call on the flop looking for outs or a scare card on the turn to bluff.

When someone donks into you in an unraised pot it's not usually a bluff, IMO.

I think it's fine, nh.

Well. I don't think it's terrible. Generally speaking there are certainly hands he can find a way to fold on this river so I think it's successful sometimes.

The flop I'll also say I definitely like. Don't have to do it all the time but this is a fine spot to raise. I think the biggest reason I dont like the rest of the line is because teh Q and the K don't really help you at all, IMO. I don't think they're scaring this guy one bit, and I think they therefore add no credibility to your bet. Because of that, this guy needs to decide that you outflopped him. He clearly hasn't decided that on the flop. He clearly hasn't decided that on the river. That's why I don't think this is the right spot.

Also, while you're busy optimistically putting him on low pair/gutshot type hands, that type of hand makes way more sense for you by the turn, and I dont see much of a reason to believe he won't think that way.

Additionally, it's a small pot. There's no reason to be splashing around in a limped blind battle. Finally, regarding the turn, I think ultimately a check is better. I don't see him folding much of anything on the turn after calling the flop, which means that the only way to move him off is a turn/river bluff, and I just dont really think this is the time.

how often are you checking behind an open sb limp with kx or qx? i would call you down with an 8, maybe even a 5.

then again i wouldn't open limp the sb either.

Thanks for the input everyone. Been experimenting with stuff like this a bunch lately. I can definitely see the merits of checking behind on the turn, but I really felt like it was tough for him to have a big hand here that could call 3 barrels. I thought a 24/12 likely didn't have the hand reading skills to call me down with just a pair of 8's here, and he only needs to fold the river like 35% of time for the river bet to be profitable (unless my math sucks which is a definite possibility). In the actual hand the villian folded the river after about 3 seconds, but that obviously doesn't make the play correct.