I only have 4 hands on villian, so no reads.

I ran pokerstove, but I don't really know how to factor in that two cards are coming or the possibility of villian drawing or bluffing.

Full Tilt - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $115.45
BB: $105.65
UTG: $100.00
MP: $127.45
CO: $100.00
BTN: $114.75

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has A K

fold, fold, CO raises to $3.00, fold, Hero raises to $9.00, fold, CO calls $6.00

Flop: ($19.00, 2 players) 8 T 9
Hero bets $18.00, CO raises to $42.00, Hero ?

wait so what do you want to do, bet full pot and then fold? just bet $14 or something more normal so people can bluff raise you, then jam. shove now anyway because its a 3 bet pot and you have the nut draw

I never thought about inducing a bluff so I could shove. I bet pot to charge max for draws or to fold him out now and take the pot. Probably wrong on all counts, so I appreciate the input.

Would I shove "because it's a 3-bet pot" because of my equity or his range or what precisely? Thanks.

dont pot it dude, now jam

SHOVE BECAUSE theres 76 in the pot and you only need to shove 73 more over his bet with NFD, and because you have a lot of hands dominated/flipping

potting is ok, now shove.

In 3-bet pots (ie pots where there's been a reraise), the pot is more inflated than in a single-raised pot, which means you're getting better pot odds to put the rest of your money in with any kind of reasonable equity. Though you'd be happy getting all in with this draw a lot of the time in a single-raised pot, the extra money in the middle here makes getting all-in even more compelling.

You're shoving because you have good equity against his range + there's a lot of money in the pot.

Don't be so concerned about 'charging the max for draws' here. A straight draw only has 6 outs against you, and we're obviously happy to get action from worse flush draws.

I like the flop betsize, but shove now

flop betsize is fine-you can either go for 2 streets or 3streets with a smaller size, as played ALLIN-you have a very good hand

btw, 10-11 pre.

shove. you're probably not ahead, but it's just so pretty.

Thanks everyone.

From his bet sizing on the flop raise I felt it was some kind of made hand or a bluff, so I put his 3b calling/2.3x flop raise range as
TT-88,AcQc,AhQh,AsQs,QJs,T9s,98s,76s. I gave him the sets, straights, two-pairs and the AQo as a bluff hand. This range only gave me 37% equity, which didn't feel right. It looks like everyone here agrees that his range includes the flush draws and maybe even some straight draws. Adding the draws would put the equity at around 60% which is an easy shove.

So I need to keep working on putting villians on reasonable ranges.

shove.
simple math problem. he is never bluffing here but you need 33% for sticking the money in and you have it (but its close)

pre 11 is fine, flop 2/3 pott is fine, shove to raise is fine.

If I understand the math it is:

$79 currently in pot. It will cost me $24 to call the raise + shove his remaining $49 for a total cost to me on this bet of $73. He's adding an additional $49 to the pot to call the shove so the pot is 79+49=128. I'm getting 128:73 odds. Add them together and divide 73 by the total for equity needed to shove. 128+73=201. 73/201 = 36.3% equity needed to shove.

Is this the correct formula? If so, is there a simpler or faster way to figure it during the hand?

Nice read sherlock

i like c/r flop

AK / AQ is checking back, better isn't always gonna bet and if it is it ain't gonna fold to a raise so I don't really get the point on such a coordinated board.

If it were Q25 there would be more of an argument since you can fold out JJ/TT (if you know he bets those OTF when checked to)

a few reasons