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100 NL  - 200 BB deep... interesting spot 100 NL  - 200 BB deep... interesting spot

06-17-2008 , 01:02 PM
At first I thought this hand was pretty straight forward. But villain is 19/12/4.6, and has not made any moves. What is he calling my crain all in with on the river for 150 BB? I dont think he has 47 here. It's possible hes got some 79 hand here...but even then its unlikley that he limps UTG lke that.

Any way to play this differently?


Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

SirCharles44 (CO): $90.75
usha714 (BTN): $100.00
Mad-shoe-ter (SB): $115.50
Hero (BB): $218.10
jakeblue99 (UTG): $243.85
Can_U_Raise (MP): $100.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 3 6
jakeblue99 calls $1, 1 fold, SirCharles44 calls $1, 1 fold, Mad-shoe-ter calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($4.00) 3 6 8 (4 players)
Mad-shoe-ter checks, Hero bets $3.50, jakeblue99 calls $3.50, SirCharles44 folds, Mad-shoe-ter folds

Turn: ($11.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, jakeblue99 raises to $30, Hero calls $21.50

River: ($71.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, jakeblue99 bets $29, Hero raises to $183.60 all in, jakeblue99 calls $154.60
06-17-2008 , 01:39 PM
79 is a big possibility and definetly part of his range,
altought alot of UTG limps rep SC,small PP and low suited aces

On the turn his range is pretty defined towards combo draws, straights, sets (47 is not a possibility i dont think from a 19/12), and top two. I might even try to shove the turn as you have alot of Equity with flushes and boats if as well as some fold EQUTIY.

only 7 possible sets on the board for him to have. He wont be calling here with less then trips as you are big blind and the 3 is more then a possiibility for you. Seems like its either a straight or a set of 5s that beats you (i really think he would raise 88 from UTG)
06-17-2008 , 01:42 PM
you play this differently by not raising all in on the river. i was seriously thinking that you should just call this river. its an unraised pot and you have a weak fh.
06-17-2008 , 01:42 PM
When villain 1/2 pots it on the river, obviously you are trapping and looking to c/r when u hit your boat. Tt's understandable villain can show up with 55,66,88 and not decide to raise the flop b/c it most likely pushes you off all your 1pair (8x, 6x) hands. However, As played on the river, you MUST call here, and if he has you beat so be it.

Even sometimes villain will show up with a ridiculously slowplayed KK,AA and believe he has you crushed.
06-17-2008 , 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TPTK77
When villain 1/2 pots it on the river, obviously you are trapping and looking to c/r when u hit your boat. Tt's understandable villain can show up with 55,66,88 and not decide to raise the flop b/c it most likely pushes you off all your 1pair (8x, 6x) hands. However, As played on the river, you MUST call here, and if he has you beat so be it.

Even sometimes villain will show up with a ridiculously slowplayed KK,AA and believe he has you crushed.
I just call his river bet and not check raise all in?
06-17-2008 , 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by llamage
I just call his river bet and not check raise all in?
Isn't this CRAI for pure value here?
06-17-2008 , 02:54 PM
were you going to c/f river UI?

I like your line, I'd bet pot on the flop and prob fold turn after his raise. C/RAI river is sweet IMO, for pure value as someone said.

He calls with straight, I'm pretty sure.
06-17-2008 , 03:05 PM
i think a crai is very thin at best, and bad at worst, against a half competent villain like this one.
06-17-2008 , 03:47 PM
7-9 fold here to a CRAI? I don't think so.
06-17-2008 , 03:52 PM
97 could and probably will fold to a CRAI here. it's 1.5 buyins we're reraising and our line looks like a boat. i'd fold 97 in his spot, if i played it like this preflop, and i never fold.
06-17-2008 , 03:53 PM
also, the 97 combos he can have are probably exclusively 97s, and i don't even know if someone with these stats would usually limp those utg.
06-17-2008 , 04:24 PM
Do 19/12s limp 79? I'd weigh his range more toward pps than a straight. Granted, I still think I cr to like 90 or something, but any competent villain (I would and I call everything) should be folding 79 here to this raise. Your line smells very much of a boat, but I think he calls a smaller raise w/ worse. All in I dunno if he is as straightforward as you say. I'd say c/r to 90 fold to a shove, but lets be honest, no one folds boats @ SSNL
06-17-2008 , 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spivey
also, the 97 combos he can have are probably exclusively 97s, and i don't even know if someone with these stats would usually limp those utg.
so whats ur action on the river...

are we donking and folding to a shove, cr to 90/fold

check call?

      
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