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1-2NL 200BBs AQo blind battle 1-2NL 200BBs AQo blind battle

04-15-2008 , 03:08 AM
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em
hero: $650.00
BB: $399.00
UTG: $317.10
CO: $393.00
BTN: $83.75

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with Q A
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6

Flop: ($16.00) Q T 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($42.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $29, Hero calls $29

River: ($100.00) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $67, Hero ???


Villain is Riverfenix. I have him at 19/15 standard tag. I run 23/19. We stay out of each other ways for the most part.

I decided to pot control flop because, well, I didn't wanna get popped and call turn bet. And I don't think I can felt this hand.

The turn card is pretty ugly for me. Still, I got lots of outs.

The river is weird. I am not sure what he puts me on. But unless he's turning his hand into a bluff, I feel like I'm beat here. I feel like I played this hand too passively.



Comment on all streets appreciated.
04-15-2008 , 03:13 AM
Well, with this board i dont think he's valuebetting thin wich makes his range at least pretty polarized to really good hands and air/hands turned into bluffs. (like J9/KJ)
So i'd tend to call since we've been showing alot of weakness, and our hand is underrepped.
04-15-2008 , 03:14 AM
bet flop
fold river
04-15-2008 , 03:44 AM
I'm making it an even hundo on the turn.

I doubt he'd 3-bet all in over that in a BvB situation, because the check/call check/raise line reps a monster. If he did 3bai, I'd probably fold because we're deep. But I like the call-flop/check-raise turn line here, especially with TPTK picking up more outs for the times we get just called.
04-15-2008 , 04:05 AM
i would just go ahead and call the river.
04-15-2008 , 04:17 AM
I supposed you had some reads that made check/calling the flop and turn ok?
04-15-2008 , 04:58 AM
I'd lead flop. Call river. You're good enough.
04-15-2008 , 05:28 AM
You need to value bet this flop unless you have a reason that there is more value in check calling.

I think you can call the river because he could not only be bluffing but value betting worse as well and this has got to be close to top of your range in this spot.
04-15-2008 , 08:12 AM
I personally think he's taking you to value town. Although your hand def looks underepped and weak, you're only beating a pure bluff. I wouldn't call unless there's some significan't history or you KNOW he's capable of doing this.

but seriously, bet the flop. If you start checking the flop here against good regs that you play often, then they're just going to rape you in the future. (I mean, of course you could then counter that with adjusting your game to having monsters in your range in this spot, but I don't think that's optimal.)
04-15-2008 , 08:34 AM
Fold river for sure, all you have is a bluffcatcher and his bets looks more towny than bluffy.
04-15-2008 , 12:11 PM
His line does look like hes milking you from turn and river betsizing but I still call though. I mean he can have spades I guess, 89 AK very very unlikely, QT JT or QJ also not super likely.

Bet flop, not a good spot to mix it up imo.
04-15-2008 , 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyAs1-2-3
I mean he can have spades I guess, 89 AK very very unlikely, QT JT or QJ also not super likely.
I would say a flush, 98, JT, QT, QJ, 44 all are super likely. Sure, hopefully RF is capable of bluffing here, but the turn isn't a very good card to follow up a bluff on and his sizing don't look bluffy, so i don't think it's a bluff enough.

Def bet the flop though.
04-15-2008 , 12:40 PM
hate your line in a blind battle. You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too strong to play bluffcatcher
04-15-2008 , 01:11 PM
isnt not betting the flop here really bad?
04-15-2008 , 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaaaaaaa
isnt not betting the flop here really bad?
That is what I was wondering. I'm almost more interested in the turn here though. I usually bet this turn in your position. Is that completely spewy on that coordinated of a board. I always feel if they got there on the turn they'll let me know and if they haven't, I want to make them pay.
04-15-2008 , 02:21 PM
I think not betting the flop is okay. The reasoning behind it is because I can also chk flops where I hit a weak piece and want to go to SD. I feel if I cbet 70-80% of my range on blind battles against a reg, i'd get popped way too often. I mean, there is certainly merit in betting and it's std. I don't think chking flop is horrible though.

On the turn, I really felt behind when he led continued to fire turn. I think c/ring the flop would make our line really weird and can't rep much. I don't think it reps a monster, rather a bluffy line. Bet/calling seems kinda bad cuz I don't think my hand is that strong on the turn.

River is where I had the most trouble. It's kinda cheap to look up and my hand is way underrepped, but what the hell can he have? J9 that turned into a bluff?

      
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