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New to the table, whats my default play here? It looks sooo strong. Probably best to fold the 3b, but now in this flop, sticking it in?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13639822

Hero (SB): $29.20 (116.8 bb)
BB: $32.54 (130.2 bb)
UTG: $26.10 (104.4 bb)
MP: $29.61 (118.4 bb)
CO: $29.81 (119.2 bb)
BTN: $32.86 (131.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2, Hero calls $1.90, BB folds, CO calls $1.25

Flop: ($6.25) T

(3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, CO raises to $15.84, BTN calls $13.34, Hero ?

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08-02-2012 , 08:59 AM

#5227

sriratcha

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 6

[QUOTE=Pitbullo;34072462]New to the table, whats my default play here? It looks sooo strong. Probably best to fold the 3b, but now in this flop, sticking it in?

I'd fold. CO has nuts, btn prob has top set, unless for any reason u think CO may have bare ace which I'd say is vvv unlikely.

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08-02-2012 , 12:15 PM

#5228

Pitbullo

adept

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 839

Kk,

was pretty mad afterwards, because one had KKxx no spade, the other one AQxx with only one diamond. Had pretty bad mood afterwards

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08-02-2012 , 05:57 PM

#5229

J17ster

journeyman

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 372

CO's raise size is pretty bizarre for the nuts here, so the naked Ax is def in his range, and BTN's hand strength is incredibly face up. Having said that, ******s would raise nuts here with this exact sizing, so it's a very meh spot, and we def know BTN has equity versus us and is never folding.

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08-03-2012 , 03:27 AM

#5230

tmckendry

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,201

Villain is 63/25/15 47agg factor, only 100 hands.

Is this a raise/fold?
just a call?

Merge - $0.04 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $7.11
Hero (BTN): $13.92
SB: $4.00
BB: $12.69
UTG: $11.53

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 7

UTG raises to $0.14, fold, Hero calls $0.14, SB calls $0.12, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.56, 4 players) J

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, fold, fold

Turn: ($0.88, 2 players) T

UTG bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

River: ($1.36, 2 players) A

UTG bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2.60, UTG raises to $9.16, fold

Spoiler:

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08-03-2012 , 03:37 AM

#5231

marlijuissi

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 385

against fish, as it seems by his stats, i'd just go ahead and raise the flop

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08-03-2012 , 07:11 AM

#5232

Aceinyourface

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 75

Raise the flop to get value from J4 and 4s

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08-03-2012 , 03:09 PM

#5233

tmckendry

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,201

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Originally Posted by marlijuissi

against fish, as it seems by his stats, i'd just go ahead and raise the flop

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Originally Posted by Aceinyourface

Raise the flop to get value from J4 and 4s

Okay, so raising the flop for value vs 4x is the best play.

As played, do we raise/fold the river?

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08-04-2012 , 07:45 AM

#5234

coon74

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 10,684

Is 47% his aggression frequency or is 4.7 his aggression factor? He's reasonably aggro post, so raise the flop, raising the turn smallish as played would be very cool, induce a spazz from turned draws. On the river I'm rather anxious because he bet smallish on the flop and turn but big on the river, repping AA credibly, maybe KQ; with TT, his turn sizing woulda been bigger; with AJ, his river bet woulda been smaller. KQ is only a bit more frequent in his range than AA because you're holding a queen, plus I'm not 100% sure if KQ will call even a minimal raise, so I'd be a ***sy and just call his bet, if I decided to raise it would be a minraise/fold.

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08-05-2012 , 12:13 PM

#5235

Salats

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,472

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

No info at all on the guy

SB ($9.64)
BB ($11.62)
UTG ($37.33)
MP ($50.54)
Hero (Button) ($24.52)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6

, 5

, 4

, 8

1 fold, MP bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.45, 2 folds, MP calls $1.05

Flop: ($3.15) 8

, 5

, 8

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2, MP calls $2

Turn: ($7.15) 10

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.20, MP calls $6.20

River: ($19.55) 9

(2 players)
MP bets $18.67 - Does he ever c/c trips in a 3bet pot on 885r? He shouldn't have many TT hands either, So do you still fold this?

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08-05-2012 , 12:40 PM

#5236

Pea-El-Oh

banned

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 327

Prob folding here, They just always have it here, somehow.

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08-05-2012 , 12:42 PM

#5237

Salats

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,472

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($34.10) - Reg plays 16tables of PLO6max,
UTG ($26.34)
MP ($21.83)
Button ($29.71)
Hero (SB) ($28.84)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, K

, Q

UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.80, BB raises to $6.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.50) J

, 10

, 4

(2 players) - I haven't been 3betting too much so he prolly has aces. C/R get it in doesn't look too good for me. I have 39% against random AAxx so I'm thinking about a c/c?

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08-05-2012 , 01:03 PM

#5238

Jabonator

nice piano there

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13,292

You can't really fold any turns after check-calling the flop with SPR 2, so there's no point. CRAI to hope for some FE.

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08-06-2012 , 10:23 AM

#5239

Fishkutter

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,173

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($33.31)
Hero ($29.50)
UTG ($24.16)
UTG+1 ($46.80)
CO ($13.80)
BTN ($29.17)

Dealt to Hero Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.85, fold, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.40, CO calls $2.55, SB calls $2.55

FLOP ($10.20) 6

SB checks, Hero bets $6.25, CO folds, SB calls $6.25

TURN ($22.70) 6

SB checks, Hero bets $19.85 (AI), SB calls $19.85

RIVER ($62.40) 6 K 6 3

hello everyone,
we hit trips in a 3bet pot, unfortunatly there is a K on board. is our hand good enough to get in in?
would you prefer smaller bets, as the board is as dry as it gets?
would you bet/fold at some point (in a passive game)?
pls let me know, what you think.

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08-06-2012 , 12:27 PM

#5240

johan313

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 295

Im so lost at HU, is this river a fold or a call. How about the turn, should I check it back?

Second hand I played, no reads, never played vilain before. Also, I did not notice it was a 50BB table =)

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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BB: $21.52 (43 bb)
Hero (SB): $25 (50 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

River: ($13) 8

(2 players)
BB bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

Spoiler:

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08-06-2012 , 12:44 PM

#5241

Salats

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,472

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan313

Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

River: ($13) 8

(2 players)
BB bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

Spoiler:

River call is supper fishy, it's always a fold. Turn not sure I barrel, but could be ok.

P.S. I'm not a pro PLO player but thats just my 5 cents.

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08-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#5242

Jabonator

nice piano there

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13,292

Super fishy? There are a bunch of draws he could have and only 1 unlikely one got there. Think you have to call river unless you have a read that villain doesn't bluff.

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08-06-2012 , 01:17 PM

#5243

PLOMonkey

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 347

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $46.18
SB: $25.00
BB: $25.00
UTG: $27.75
Hero (MP): $28.72
CO: $36.17

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 9

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.35) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.15, Hero raises to $14.25, BTN calls $10.10

River: ($32.85) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20.25, Hero calls $12.47 all in

Standard?

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08-06-2012 , 01:34 PM

#5244

Salats

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,472

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabonator

Super fishy? There are a bunch of draws he could have and only 1 unlikely one got there. Think you have to call river unless you have a read that villain doesn't bluff.

I think most people at these stakes don't bluff HUPLO it's 2nd hand I want a good read that he is bluffy to call that. 2nd hand he can be calling super light oop and have all kinds of Qx 2 pairs and even sets.

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08-06-2012 , 02:02 PM

#5245

Jabonator

nice piano there

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13,292

He's not playing queens up or sets like that. Easy crai on the turn. He's only repping T9.

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08-06-2012 , 03:23 PM

#5246

Salats

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,472

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabonator

He's not playing queens up or sets like that. Easy crai on the turn. He's only repping T9.

I have seen people play sets like that. They want to see that draws miss first and then go with their set. But it's true they don't play queens up like that which I didn't realize before and that was what I was worried about the most when I was posting before. But still a fold can't be too bad.

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08-06-2012 , 06:28 PM

#5247

Lemay002

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Salats

I have seen people play sets like that

thats just a poor reasoning in general

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08-07-2012 , 04:24 AM

#5248

Joenaes

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 62

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $162.42
Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $272.20
BB: $218.78
UTG: $200.00
MP: $384.87

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, SB raises to $17.00, fold, Hero calls $12.00

Flop: ($36.00, 2 players) K

SB bets $26.00, Hero calls $26.00

Turn: ($88.00, 2 players) 6

SB bets $85.20, fold

SB wins $85.20

Opponent is very laggy with 34/24/18 71%cbet, 75cbet T. If turn didnt bring an extra fd I guess i stack off on 6, but now its a close fold? We stack off on low cards i guess?

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08-07-2012 , 09:28 AM

#5249

#myfightmatters

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 100

standard?

call flop is an option?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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BTN: $32.53 (325.3 bb)
SB: $43.21 (432.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
MP: $8.11 (81.1 bb)
CO: $16.37 (163.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

3 folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $1.15, Hero raises to $4.60, SB raises to $12.80, Hero calls $4.80 and is all-in

Turn: ($20.00) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($20.00) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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08-07-2012 , 10:04 AM

#5250

Wolfram

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,066

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salats

I think villain has a bluff or exactly T9 after this line.

It's way more likely that a villain bluffs at these stakes than he would take this line for value with anything but the nuts.

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