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01-05-2011 , 01:05 PM

recallme

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

Villain is very loose over our first 15 hands.

Ongame Network $2/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $587.30
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $172.40
CO: $213.10
BTN: $269.40

Hero posts a big blind ($2)

Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero is BB with J

3 folds, SB checks, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

Turn: ($32.00) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $32, Hero raises to $80, SB calls $48

River: ($192.00) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $192, Hero calls $104 all in

Do you like my small turn rasie vs his donk?
IS this river call just spew?
Imo vs a good Villain we have to call here atleast sometimes, but vs a likely fish?

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01-05-2011 , 01:08 PM

ATrebek

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,291

Repot turn imo, he's rarely pot folding I think. Also makes river call super trivial.

As played, getting almost 4:1, fml I prob call then kick myself for doing so.

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01-05-2011 , 01:09 PM

Berbatov

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 372

What do you put him on that could possibly call the turn raise and not have a better hand on the river?

I like preflop and flop. I'd raise bigger on the turn. No reason to give him odds to call with FDs or sets imo. Those are the only hands you are getting action from whether you make a small or large raise. So why not charge when he is likely not folding.

River as played: fold.

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01-05-2011 , 01:21 PM

recallme

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

If i didn`t have the 2nd nut FD+ 3 diamonds i like a bigger turn raise, too.
Assuming he is fishy, i hope he could do sth stupid here.
Say: Call with 2 pairs, call with pair+gutter, ship some strupid stuff.

PS: 9d gives me the nutflush, too

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01-05-2011 , 02:22 PM

Silly Skates

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,771

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Originally Posted by recallme

Do you like my small turn rasie vs his donk?

I like raising full pot.

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01-05-2011 , 02:25 PM

Cr@ckers717

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,407

Raise more OTT, river we beat nothing really so fold

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01-06-2011 , 10:59 AM

recallme

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

Don'tyou think we can giveVillain more room to make a mistake by raising smallish?

I am honest on the turn i wasn't ale to give him a range at all. Imo setsmake absolutley no sense and the flush i am blocking quite hard

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01-06-2011 , 11:17 AM

Leroy2DaBeroy

Head in the Clouds

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,761

It's spelled weird, FWIW.

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01-06-2011 , 11:38 AM

AveeMaria

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,714

I like the turn raise sizing idea though I tend to raise a little more. As played, 4:1, I call though I can safely say 75% because of spite.

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01-06-2011 , 04:17 PM

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lifes3ps

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,694

if youre raising the turn this size this rivers a fold

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01-06-2011 , 04:29 PM

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Mt.FishNoob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

+1 turn raise pot or closer to for value, especially given read that he's fish/loose

River, we beat hardly anything, I might spite/tilt call though if I'm suspicious, but I don't think it would be proper

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01-06-2011 , 07:50 PM

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crashwhips

self-banned

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,940

Don't mind raise sizing on turn to get him to possibly do something dumb with our redraw/nfd blockers and the possibility of getting him to do something dumb with TT blockers or whatever other garbage he might be bluffing with. Raising big is obv fine too, and probably preferable, if only to get ensure you get all or most of his stack when he has a set or the nfd and to avoid a river spot like this. River is whatever, you're not good very often but against a random probably more than 1 in 4 so I cry and call like you did.

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