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weird spot for a beginner in the great game weird spot for a beginner in the great game

07-14-2020 , 07:10 AM
Ok i come from a NLH background and dont seem to break this hand down on my own to see if i played good bad or medium

I haven played with this player befor so no real reads but there isent alot of bluffing with blockers etc in this game in general. If you get repopped on the flop its 90% something pretty good.

So game is 0,1/0,25 PLO 25euro max we are 33 euro effective stack.

UTG opens POTT till 0,85 Euro
Im in the next seat with Kh Kk Jh 9k, for me this is a standard 3 bet. So i popp to 2,38euro. In these stakes pretty much representing AAxx.

He calls the 3 bet. Flop comes down Ah, 5h, Js "pott is 5,1 euro"

Here i bet halfpott 2,55e and very rarly expekt to be reraised. But he pott RR me to 12,76e with 10,21 to call.

Here i am very confused since im repping the AAxx what is he rasing with? I have a strong range on a high card flop.

If i call im pretty much commiting myself aslong as the board dosent pair on the turn. But i have the nut flushdraw, K is prob good, maybe J is good ofc flush is good.

And for my overall strategy can i fold hans like this and dont be abused ?

How would you plo wizards play this ?
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07-14-2020 , 11:59 AM
not being results oriented but I don't hate checking this flop and seeing a turn. You get checkraised a lot (he can have trip Aces here, or JJJ). As played I think this may be a shove or a fold on the flop. If the turns blanks he's going to fire near pot again and you are going to fold unimproved. Shipping in allows you to see turn and river with at least some clean outs.
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07-14-2020 , 12:14 PM
I see your point but me checking back flop pretty much turn my hand face up?
If i check back those boards with this specifik hand, dosent i need to start check back som AJxx AKQT etc also?
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07-14-2020 , 12:20 PM
It is pretty standard for an opponent to jam here in a 3-bet pot with a lot of two pair hands to end the hand rather than play a turn with a big pot OOP where we can check back.

People do this despite the fact you are repping AA as it simplifies things for them to just end action one way or the other.

As played you have to stack off as you're more in the flipping range and now there's a bit over 10 euros dead money after you bet. This means that you're effectively facing a shove of 28 more in a pot of 38 which means you need about 42% equity.

Versus two pairs you have almost direct equity. Worst cases he has AA that didn't 4 bet (which is discounted as a lot of players would auto 4-b AA here) or JJ (of which combos are reduced by 2/3rds because you block it with your J). You have 30% and 37% respectively against these combos but he has way more two pair type hands.

There's also a chance that he is just trying to end the hand with some kind of queen high flush draw type hand, QQ with hearts, QJT9 with hearts, etc, in which case you'd have 70%+ equity and that happening some of the time is enough to give you the equity you need.

I think betting is still fine because we aren't check-raised that often - it does suck to get it in on the 40% end of the 60/40 when we are, but there are lots of reasons to bet such as folding out bits of equity where they can hit a gutter or two pair. But also if he does just check/call with lower hearts, the pot is really well set up for you in position to value bet/apply pressure/pot control/see rivers as you please.

Last edited by Stryd0r; 07-14-2020 at 12:26 PM.
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07-14-2020 , 01:18 PM
Wow thx alot for that well built analysis. I see The game in a new way 😉
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