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09-10-2011 , 10:05 AM
Two hands from PLO WCOOP $215 if you don't mind, about 30 people left $61k to winner

Villain is playing quite tight aggressive, kind of snug out of position, 22/11 or something, hasn't been caught out of line much





    Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha Tournament, 6 Players
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    RealAndyBeal (SB): 81,016 (20.3 bb)
    jonyctt (BB): 160,063 (40 bb)
    substance (UTG): 219,390 (54.8 bb)
    GrovSnus (MP): 89,642 (22.4 bb)
    Hero (CO): 259,024 (64.8 bb)
    Hustlaaaaaa (BTN): 74,864 (18.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 A A 5
    2 folds, Hero raises to 12,000, Hustlaaaaaa folds, RealAndyBeal calls 10,000, jonyctt calls 8,000

    Flop: (36,000) K J 9 (3 players)
    RealAndyBeal checks, jonyctt checks, Hero bets 21,185, RealAndyBeal folds, jonyctt calls 21,185

    Turn: (78,370) T (2 players)
    jonyctt checks, Hero bets 43,145




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    Is bet/bet (turn,riv) here a dangerous line w some blockers to AQ? It negates
    the value of my FD but I don't see any other way to win the pot!



    Hand 2:

    The open is obviously horrendously light but SB plays very tight 5-10%
    in this position and BB tighter maybe 5%

    Kind of a similar spot, have only played a handful of hands w villain tho
    so no reads

    c/f flop?




      Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha Tournament, 5 Players
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      harddecision (SB): 160,527 (32.1 bb)
      substance (BB): 330,679 (66.1 bb)
      GrovSnus (MP): 187,410 (37.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): 342,703 (68.5 bb)
      ghost crab (BTN): 202,245 (40.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 9 T 7
      GrovSnus folds, Hero raises to 10,000, ghost crab calls 10,000, 2 folds

      Flop: (27,500) 3 4 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets 14,575, ghost crab calls 14,575

      Turn: (56,650) J (2 players)
      Hero bets 35,000, ghost crab calls 35,000

      River: (126,650) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets 126,650




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      WCOOP 16- 5 Quote
      09-10-2011 , 11:40 AM
      well played,sir!
      very well,indeed!
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      09-10-2011 , 01:43 PM
      I was at your table for some time. Why do you pot almost every river? Seen you bluff of the majority of your stack at leat 2 times with a potbet on a lockdown board where you kinda rep less when you pot ^^ You did manage too make me call of my stack with a potbet tho But it's just not such a good sizing in general.
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      09-11-2011 , 06:46 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by j.a.o.p.
      well played,sir!
      very well,indeed!
      haha

      I think I usually go passive here but you def convinced me to like ur lines as well... I feel like these hands define tourny strategy, and i guess the answer really comes down to what ur opponent's ranges are
      WCOOP 16- 5 Quote
      09-11-2011 , 06:53 AM
      I know you have more f/e in mtts, but people don't really fold K hi straight often 40bb deep with this runout do they?

      1 seems a bit spew, but not sure
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      09-11-2011 , 07:34 AM
      Hand 1 is standard and I would jam all blank rivers. Given the board is high, meaning villains can have sets, and the fact that there are 2 flush draws out there, we're definitely betting the Q-high straight, and possibly worse straights, and combo hands like set + fd; there are some hands he can c/c as well, like 2p + fd or something.

      Hand 2, we've played together at 6max and I know you're tight, but you're missing tons and tons and tons of value if you consider 579Tss to be a 'horrendously light' open. Surely you mean 'c/f turn' rather than 'c/f flop'? C/f flop shouldn't be entering your range of options, it's a c/c way before a c/f but betting 100% of the time w/o a significant dynamic is standard. I can see myself barreling turn a decent % of the time, but c/f is probably best. River I would give up, we're not getting him off a wheel and that's what he has a lot of the time.
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      09-11-2011 , 09:54 AM
      Interesting, thanks guys.

      Results
      Spoiler:

      Hand 1 he flats turn and c/f heart

      Hand 2 he calls after 90 seconds w J3
      WCOOP 16- 5 Quote
      09-11-2011 , 12:46 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Rocky-PN
      I was at your table for some time. Why do you pot almost every river? Seen you bluff of the majority of your stack at leat 2 times with a potbet on a lockdown board where you kinda rep less when you pot ^^ You did manage too make me call of my stack with a potbet tho But it's just not such a good sizing in general.
      It's alright if the bettor can have the nuts and the one in calling position can't. If the nuts are really easy to have, like if the board reads KQJTx after heavy action, potting is bad regardless of holdings, but the example hand at least is completely fine.
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      09-11-2011 , 09:51 PM
      Don't bluff the ghost crab
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