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01-10-2011 , 08:25 PM
Villain is 32/24 and decent aggro reg.

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SB: $200.00
BB: $150.40
Hero (UTG): $275.05
MP: $202.15
CO: $95.70
BTN: $604.65

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with Q T 7 9
Hero raises to $7, MP calls $7, CO calls $7, 3 folds

Flop: ($24.00) Q 8 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $20, MP calls $20, CO folds

Turn: ($64.00) A (2 players)

Whats your turn plan?
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01-10-2011 , 08:37 PM
its not that bad a turn i prefer to bet, if he shoves then maybe could be a bad turn, or he might think he has some fold equity and try shove like 456 type hand, you got 8 nut outs so 20% min i dont really like b/f so id b/c u need like 30% if you bet 52 on turn
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01-10-2011 , 10:21 PM
No way to fold imo.

Which line would be better: bet/calling or check raising. I think that by check raising some hands like A8, A7, 78 could fold (if he bets obv) and we still have our outs to hands that have us beaten.
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01-10-2011 , 10:31 PM
Bet 40 - 50 IMO, re evaluate river, if he jams... wanna gamble?
If you check he's betting a lot of hands (bluff, J109x, A8 etc) so it doesn't give you a lot of information. That said, check raising could be a great semi bluff if you put him on a float or like A7. But would he call A7 on flop? Maybe if he had a straight draw to go with it.

Although I'm not PLO expert.
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01-10-2011 , 10:33 PM
Bet 40 - 50 IMO, re evaluate river, if he jams... wanna gamble?
If you check he's betting a lot of hands (bluff, J109x, A8 etc) so it doesn't give you a lot of information. That said, check raising could be a great semi bluff if you put him on a float or like A7. But would he call A7 on flop? Maybe if he had a straight draw to go with it.

Although I'm not PLO expert.
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01-10-2011 , 11:52 PM
Am I the only one who is bet folding this turn? When he reraises turn we are down to a s8draw... It makes no sense for him to reraise turn with some s8draw, If he was going to do that why not OTF??
When he reraises turns he pretty much has us crushed with better two pairs and we do not have the odds to call a reraise pot size bet.
Interested in hearing what you guys think about my reasons-line
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01-11-2011 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by renator21
Am I the only one who is bet folding this turn? When he reraises turn we are down to a s8draw... It makes no sense for him to reraise turn with some s8draw, If he was going to do that why not OTF??
When he reraises turns he pretty much has us crushed with better two pairs and we do not have the odds to call a reraise pot size bet.
Interested in hearing what you guys think about my reasons-line
i like b/f here #2
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01-11-2011 , 02:27 AM
bet/fold the turn man
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01-11-2011 , 10:00 AM
I expect a decent aggro reg(like myself) to raise the turn with a turned combo draw like KJT9 if I know that villain is capable of b/f OOP.

I prefer c/r vs. aggro villain because you always have decent equity and you won't make any mistakes on the river.
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01-11-2011 , 10:45 AM
I do prefer craise since hes floating a lot in this spots. We can by repping AAxx here a vaste % of time, since we play AA65 this way otf e.g. Also think we can make Q8 AQ to fold sometimes
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01-11-2011 , 02:55 PM
C/r with AA is fps and c/r with this hand is spew
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01-11-2011 , 03:43 PM
This turn hits our range alot more than villains so would probably b/f depending on the pot odds given.
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01-11-2011 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nachunja
C/r with AA is fps and c/r with this hand is spew
were doing as a bluff
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01-12-2011 , 02:08 AM
Pretty easy bet fold. We're rarely getting raised here and we have fold equity. I hate all the other options.
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01-12-2011 , 05:13 AM
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bet/fold the turn man
+1
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