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Are these bluffs profitable? Are these bluffs profitable?

11-02-2019 , 08:47 PM
5/5/rock

UTG2 with rock
Hero with A997ss in BB

3 limps, I complete in BB
UTG and Rock also call- 6 way flop

Flop (60): Ah 5s 2d
X to BTN limper who bets 50, SB and I call

Turn (210): Qs
X to BTN who bets 210, SB folds, I call

River (640): Tc
I lead 500?

Villain in BTN is tight overall but will sometimes limp hands like 8832ss, so he definitely has a good amount of 43 in his range. I realize flop is a fold, but getting to turn, my thoughts are to call and bet any spade, board pair, K J or T. This lets me bet close to 30 rivers that change the nuts. Are these spots profitable against straightforward tight villains with low VPIP?
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11-03-2019 , 01:05 AM
How deep are you and V? Why aren't you betting the pot on River? Has V seen enough of your play so far to have seen this line before (with a winning hand)? It's almost better if V hasn't seen you play much since this should lean them more towards a strong hand.

The biggest issue is what are you repping? Broadway obv, but how? You almost have to exactly have AKJTxx to call the Flop. Why wouldn't you protect a set on the Turn when HU by c/re-pot?

The line is just very strange, I just don't think you are generating folds 40% of the time when a Player has a basically pot/pot line going to the River. GL
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11-03-2019 , 02:02 AM
No. You should have almost no hands with kj. But you might win when villain was bluffing or overrepresenting his hand previous streets.
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11-03-2019 , 02:50 AM
what was the thought process behind flop call?
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11-04-2019 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
what was the thought process behind flop call?
Overcalling flop seems really bad
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11-04-2019 , 08:21 AM
Please fold the flop.
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11-05-2019 , 03:23 AM
Can you explain your reasoning behind this river line?
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11-05-2019 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
How deep are you and V? Why aren't you betting the pot on River? Has V seen enough of your play so far to have seen this line before (with a winning hand)? It's almost better if V hasn't seen you play much since this should lean them more towards a strong hand.

The biggest issue is what are you repping? Broadway obv, but how? You almost have to exactly have AKJTxx to call the Flop. Why wouldn't you protect a set on the Turn when HU by c/re-pot?

The line is just very strange, I just don't think you are generating folds 40% of the time when a Player has a basically pot/pot line going to the River. GL
I agree, I'm repping very thin here. I think leading on K J or T doesn't make much sense. Thinking again, I should probably only be bluffing board pairs. I'm not turn XR'ing sets into a range that has a fair amount of 43.

Turn is probably a fold - I'm 4.5:1 to hit my flush and only getting 2:1 on a call. I would need to get paid on flushing rivers close to 50% of the time and have him fold river board pairs a lot to be close to break even.

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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
what was the thought process behind flop call?
I don't know what I was thinking lol. Looking back it's a pretty clear fold, especially multiway. Heads up I can argue for a call.

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Originally Posted by Suhlm2
Can you explain your reasoning behind this river line?
Trying to rep KJ and fold out sets and maybe 43 given I thought villain was on the tighter/nittier side. But as mentioned above, it is hard for me to rep KJxx very much here when I overcall flop and turn.
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11-12-2019 , 02:59 AM
Dnt like it. Villain isnt folding 43 here. Fold flop ainoc
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11-13-2019 , 09:13 PM
why call the flop? also turn is a fold too
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