Thoughts on this hand?

Villain 75/16/1.1/Agg2.1 over 568 hands (70/12/0 on this session, 171h). We're playing on 2-3 tables. He's a regular. This session I'd raised my aggression a bit (47/32/15/3.7), getting some table control going. On that spirit I reraised this rather trashy KKJ2ds from the bb. Openraiser had normal tagish stats. Assessing by his chat, villain was getting a bit steamy just before this, he has by no means displayed any serious tilt before, though. I'd been so aggressive and varied my lines so I'd think he shouldn't put me for a sure overpair. Edit: I guess I should have an overpair here very seldom since with a FD I'd likely just get it in on the flop and without the fd I'd usually give up. Hence villain puts me mostly on bare FD or maybe a 6543 kind of hand?

$100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Hero (BB): $219.65
UTG: $120.90
CO: $94.47
BTN: $203.50
SB: $127.17

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 2 J K K
1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14.50, CO calls $11, BTN calls $11

Flop: ($44.00) 2 6 Q (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $44.00, Hero calls $44, CO folds

Turn: ($132.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $132.00, Hero raises to $161.15, BTN calls $13 all in

I don't use HEM much apart from the few general stats so I didn't use any stats to base my flop and turn decisions on. If anyone cares to briefly mention what I should be looking for here, please do.

As for my thought process, I just thought villain was pretty likely to fire if checked to and as we were 200bb deep I shouldn't just give up as the flop wasn't especially coordinated. Didn't think thru all the turns but I guess there was a decent amount of turns I'd be somewhat comfortable with. Without the bdfd I was going to fold the flop, most club turns I was going to get it in.

i like the way u played it

Don't like the 3b pf. Once you do 3b, then on the flop I'd mostly b-f. Once you c-c flop then you should pot the turn yourself if you're going to stack off anyways.

This was just ten minutes before, same villain. Sort of a trainwreck for a hand but you've gotta spazz out sometimes, right? Maintain the image. Oh and it worked so obv I know what I'm doing. After this hand I teased villain a bit, hinted that I bluffed a bluffer. He got a bit verbal.

$100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Hero (BB): $88.15
UTG: $236.10
CO: $106.97
BTN: $97.20
SB: $120.97

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 7 Q A J
UTG raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14.50, UTG calls $11, BTN calls $11

Flop: ($44.00) 9 2 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($44.00) 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

River: ($44.00) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $44.00, Hero raises to $73.65, UTG folds, BTN folds

Final Pot: $132.00
Hero wins $99.35
(Rake: $3.00)

Seems like I like to reraise from the blinds...

Yeah thought about this but figured he'd hardly ever call with worse. Villain is not a huge calling station.

I also don't like the 3bet preflop, especially because you say in your description you have KKJ2ds, when it's actually single suited. If it was double suited a 3-bet is more acceptable, but even then vs 2 opponents, which you describe as loose and slightly tilted, you are almost sure to get called in 2 spots and you have to play your very mediocre Kings OOP in an inflated pot vs loose oponents who will never fold to a c-bet with any piece of the flop anyways. Not an EV+ situation IMO. Just call pre, and go from there.

As played, flop is fine, but on turn your c/r has no fold equity, so it only has merit if you think that you actually have the best hand on turn and you get him to commit with worse. I think this might be the case as his range has a lot of pair+hearts FD, or some random low straight draw+FD. However, if you are looking for fold equity vs 2 pair type of hands it's probably better to just lead pot turn. On this board, I like your c/r since we are in good shape vs many worse draws and we are only in bad shape vs sets since no straights are possible and he never has AAxx.

you already know preflop

I think a b/c vs CO is fine, and b/f vs btn, being deep people are less likely to be putting moves on you and you may be surprised put ANY heart flush draw + 4 cards and see how your equity stands with your hand. There are just so many turns you won't be sure about.

If he just calls you can easily ship the turn pull pot, even hopefully fold out his pair + heart draws if he didn't ship the flop (small pairs w/ non nut hearts, etc)

These are not good hands to be 3betting with OOP, especially deep. If you're winning with them now it's std PLO variance and soon you'll be wondering where all your money has gone.

Villain is extremely loose and passive and potting into 2 other players deep on a board that would be hard to have missed his wide range. You JUST have kings which are either not good now, or barely good and won't be much good by the river. If I check here it's to c/f and all of my cbets are a standard b/f.

Yeah dunno how I managed to write ds in there, obv single suited.

Funny, as loose as I am I'm not sure I like a b/c against CO here, maybe it's a bit contradicting. But CO hasn't been tricky at all so if he checks I'm very confident it's to give up, not c-r.

I'm actually a bit surprised for the almost unanimous advice to bet/call the turn as played. I just think his calling range is a lot tighter than bet/calling range. Oh and obv I'm not expecting any FE whatsoever, he has $13 to call in $400+ pot (differs from the 2nd posted hand).

I know how passiveness OOP is widely preached and that If I necessarily want to bloat it OOP nut hands are better etc. I just feel like this was far from your typical FTP plo25 and you can really get away with a little more (+ this isn't a round of 6-max with one open seat, it's 5-max and I maintain that the dynamics are different than in 6m).

As for results... River - wait for it - A for the nuts and villain's a bit more steaming than before the hand - leaving both tables. His mucked hand is not shown, though.

.. which is why we bet. Whatever he has our hand isn't large enough that we want to be inducing action. Betting ourselves gets him to fold hands that are getting the right price to continue, but not know it... or call w/ some draws that we're a fav against.

Can you explain why you don't c/f this flop? It's a flip against any draw and way behind against anything made. Sure you could float hoping for a nice turn, but if you plan on doing this you should DEF bet pot when it comes, not wait for him to check behind with his draws. I would think it's lose lose -- you're either letting him jam his made hand against your marked overpair, or letting him see the river free when he misses the turn (if u don't bet out).

I dont like this hand at all - 100% i snap the call button so fast id break my mouse with TTxx - u really do rep the absolute nothing

on the subbject of the first mentioned hand - i think its kind of a cool line cos it seems like you have a decent amount of info on the guy and its defo the best line to make him spazz off + have FD for b/up - altho in the interests of balance i have to say i like leading the flop once you've 3bet ...but i really dont mind the hand at all in fact i think its pretty gd altho incredibly high varience lol

Forgot to mention he actually said after the flop something like "Fishing for hearts?". In my experience thats often a tell meaning the sayer himself is drawing.

Thanks. Gotta ponder on this a bit.

I bet the flop in the first hand, can't really see ever folding with your read.

Second hand, preflop three bet is pretty spewy, river check/raise is pretty spewy.

You're really bet/calling there 200 BBs deep vs a 70/12?

I hope you know you don't have a flush draw on the flop and yet you called a pot bet. What were you hoping to see on the turn??? You are OOP so you can't call with nothing there because he will push turn for sure if you don't bet. Don't pot pre with ss and don't check call pot with nothing hoping to see some miracle turn.

I think ur thinking is flawed. You say u'd fold if u didn't have backdoor clubs. That is not enough of a reason to continue cause that implies ur folding the turn when u don't make it and hence ur putting in way too much money in the hopes of having some turn equity. If u want to make a stand with KK fair enough and the bdfd helps but it shouldn't make the difference.

2nd hand is very spewy. I'd rather call than raise all in.

your play in both hands seem very optimistic. seems spewy but good for u if u have that sick of a read. I just think the villain could easily have QQxx in hand one or have random 2 pairs.

In hand 2 he has AQ high right wtf is happening