The games are good. This particular game is fairly active with PF 3bets.

I am SB w/ 8765ds.

UTG Opens for POT. UTG is 200<x<300 BBs deep, and A COMPLETE ******. I am not sure what to say. He has lost a big stack. Got stacked, reloaded, doubled up, and then some. ROLLER COASTER.

He lost most of his chips to me. IDK if some hands he thinks are H/L or what. He has called some 100BB turn bets with like good pair good kick on loaded boards. Maybe its just NLHE hand ranges, IDK.

I Played a hand against him where I limped QQJX in EP, he Rd PF with XXT7. The flop was 389. I lead for pot (we are like 200BBs deep) he calls. Turn is a T, I lead for pot again, he calls. River is an off suit 9. I C, he ships, I snap.

UTG + 1 smooth calls. He has been 3betting UTG like 4 or 5 times in as many orbits. He knows this guy is FOS.

I smooth from SB, BB squeezes for pot. No real reads on him but he prolly also knows UTG is FOS.

Everyone calls. The flop is 778. I am so focused on the fish and plan on passive TAGing and C without much thought.

In hindsight I am not sure about the C just because given ranges there are a lot of dirty turns. Thoughts on a flop C vs lead? C seems pretty standard but people aren't betting that wide 4way.

Turn is a J and I go for the same move. BB leads some gay amount, like 1/3 pot, UTG calls and UTG+1 ships.

Call or fold?

BTW, I cover everyone and the others are about 100bbs.

I don´t have a problem with folding a 4th nut boat w/1 out redraw to a turn bet call and raise but I have a problem with checking a full house twice.

I get that your opponents are bad, but you should learn to better respect your opponents. It clouds your reads and judgment.

A guy that open pots a lot has a wide range -- he's not "FOS". When UTG1 calls instead of 3b'ing, his hand is mediocre and not good enough to iso. "UTG1 knows UTG is FOS" is a horrible read, and tells you nothing. Similarly, when BB bloats the pot, he has a good hand. Your read that "BB knows UTG is FOS' may be true, but irrelevant.

Gay is not a synonym for stupid/dumb. Grow up.

Posting potsizes would help. If UTG pots to 4bb, the BB's repot would be to 20bb, meaning there would be a 80bb pot OTF, with most people having 80bbs. Why are you trapping when the SPR is ~1?

Gii

good points.

all of this

+1

Thanks for the responses guys.

PP were you UTG? Just kidding.

1. Respect is earned, not given (but I appreciate your sentiment).

2. I didnt say he is FOS because he has a wide range. He doesn't have ranges in the real meaning of that word. My read was that he is FOS.

I am not so sure they are horrible reads. Maybe I didn't express myself clearly though. My point is that most of the other people at the table are focused on UTG.

I did not describe him as LAG or LAGfish. It was like he was playing H/L PLO w/ NLHE hand ranges or something like that. I really wasnt sure how to describe him. My notes didnt just say NLHE HRs...

I dont remember pot / bet sizes, sorry. I got them about right.

I was mostly wondering about the fold and the second check.

3. While I am at it. I am plenty grown up and not homophobic. Language is a living, breathing, evolving thing. And just because you and Merriam Webster do not use that word the same why I do (sometimes) does not mean I am wrong to do so. Plenty of people do use it that way and know what I mean when I do.

Maybe you should grow up and instead of nit-picking my language try and be legitimately constructive?

That's a pretty niggardly thing to say.

thanks. that truly made my day

niiice