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05-22-2012 , 04:50 AM
on 888, mostly 6PLO




on Stars, all 10PLO



I don't think I should have switched sites
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05-22-2012 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CHRONICFEVER
Lol ^^^
What makes them scumbag?
Headphones,glasses, super emo, nitty and crappy clothes

I can't stand those regs either
yes. but in all seriousness, just ppl u are ashamed to be associated with as u share the same 'profession.'


in other news, i lost equivalent to 35 buy ins today. over half was at the deep ante tables. that was fun.
I am truly terrible at this game.
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Last edited by hockeyhero31; 05-22-2012 at 05:36 AM.
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05-22-2012 , 05:46 AM
damn hockey , iam on a tough stretch as well...

sooo. after 6+ months of no poker... my 3 week adventure at merge has finally ended..
here is my final graph...
I was playing like a maniac and running people over as well as running unbelievably good (everytime I had a big session , I would be like wtf, how the hell did i win all those hands?) I tried to stay humble through out the upswing and not get carried away but the downswing was inevitable and when it came , it was pretty bad, I couldnt win any big pots, let alone any pots.

I even took a break and tried to clear my head. lost another 2k at 1-2 and finally called it quits


Last edited by CHRONICFEVER; 05-22-2012 at 05:53 AM.
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05-22-2012 , 10:37 AM
Nice spin up, gg chronic. Highest stakes you played? Did ya end up cashing out the ~5k you're still up? Also, when's your next crack at the cpa exam?
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05-22-2012 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by crashwhips
Nice spin up, gg chronic. Highest stakes you played? Did ya end up cashing out the ~5k you're still up? Also, when's your next crack at the cpa exam?
thanks , Yeah I did cash it out..
highest stakes were 2-4 and 3-6 but I rarely played those games. maybe less than 1k hands, only played those games when they were really good.
there was one 3-6 game that was the best game ever!
Not gonna go into posting hands , but I sat in it with 2 whales on my right.
it would go , whale 1 bets, whale 2 3 bets, I 4bet with like AAKQ pf or some top 1% hand and it would either totally brick or i would get it in vs some bs pair, ya know how it is. lost 2 half buyins , then lost a full buyin ,
then ran it up to 2 buyins and got coolered then insta quit.

went back to 1-2 and still couldnt win anything.. I profited exactly 7k from merge with rakebak and stuff

as for the CPA , I get my score in the next day or two. I really think I passed,hopefully i did. parents gona be up my ass soon to start a real job. gonna be interesting. will keep ya updated with the score
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05-22-2012 , 06:23 PM
I like this hand because I knew what villain had and more importantly what he didn't have in his hand.

cha-ching!

    Merge, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12959772

    BTN: $11.22 (112.2 bb)
    SB: $16.26 (162.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $26.50 (265 bb)
    CO: $10 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 2 2 3
    2 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.60) T 8 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.40

    Turn: ($4.20) A (2 players)
    SB bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20

    River: ($12.60) K (2 players)
    SB bets $9.96 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.96

    Results: $32.52 pot ($1.62 rake)
    Final Board: T 8 6 A K
    SB showed 9 7 6 4 and lost (-$16.26 net)
    Hero showed 5 2 2 3 and won $30.90 ($14.64 net)



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    05-22-2012 , 08:11 PM
    Love the moment when the cards finally "punish" the lagtard playing 88/60/35.
    Dont want a big discussion here but what do you think, to deep to jam on the flop/turn ?

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12960412

      CO: $11.12 (111.2 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (SB): $40.30 (403 bb)
      BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
      MP: $43.61 (436.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 K K A
      MP raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.05) 2 T 4 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.70, BB folds, MP raises to $3.10, Hero calls $2.40

      Turn: ($7.25) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $6.92, Hero calls $6.92

      River: ($21.09) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $20.14, Hero raises to $29.93 and is all-in, MP calls $9.79

      Results: $80.95 pot ($1.25 rake)
      Final Board: 2 T 4 7 K
      Hero showed 8 K K A and won $79.70 ($39.40 net)
      MP showed Q 8 7 Q and lost (-$40.30 net)



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      05-22-2012 , 09:14 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by bartolomeus
      Dont want a big discussion here but what do you think, to deep to jam on the flop/turn ?
      Yes.
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      05-22-2012 , 09:44 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by bartolomeus
      Love the moment when the cards finally "punish" the lagtard playing 88/60/35.
      Dont want a big discussion here but what do you think, to deep to jam on the flop/turn ?

        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12960412

        CO: $11.12 (111.2 bb)
        BTN: $10 (100 bb)
        Hero (SB): $40.30 (403 bb)
        BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
        MP: $43.61 (436.1 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 K K A
        MP raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

        Flop: ($1.05) 2 T 4 (3 players)
        Hero bets $0.70, BB folds, MP raises to $3.10, Hero calls $2.40

        Turn: ($7.25) 7 (2 players)
        Hero checks, MP bets $6.92, Hero calls $6.92

        River: ($21.09) K (2 players)
        Hero checks, MP bets $20.14, Hero raises to $29.93 and is all-in, MP calls $9.79

        Results: $80.95 pot ($1.25 rake)
        Final Board: 2 T 4 7 K
        Hero showed 8 K K A and won $79.70 ($39.40 net)
        MP showed Q 8 7 Q and lost (-$40.30 net)



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        3bet pre. 86/60/35 wahle will 4bet a lot, which make an awesome spot to 5bet.

        flop 99% of the time id rather bet/call flop than bet/3bet/get in... but this is the 1% time, because villain is a whale and would get in w/ TXhh, JT53off etc.
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        05-22-2012 , 10:39 PM
        CR get it in on flop, CR get in on turn as played.
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        05-23-2012 , 06:44 AM
        Here is my hopefully second last play money graph (would like this project to be completed before June )



        Three levels, 1000bb win on each. The 100/200 is left, then I'm in for $0.01/0.02!
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        05-23-2012 , 06:47 AM
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        Originally Posted by plaaynde
        Three levels, 1000bb win on each. The 100/200 is left, then I'm in for $0.01/0.02!


        That seems like a serious waste of time. Anyone who even remotely knows what they are doing can crush PLO2. Like 10% of the players there don't even know the rules.
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        05-23-2012 , 06:53 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Alrighty Roo


        That seems like a serious waste of time. Anyone who even remotely knows what they are doing can crush PLO2. Like 10% of the players there don't even know the rules.
        Sounds good

        Had to make relatively sure I'm not one of them...
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        05-23-2012 , 08:58 AM
        Why does God hate me?

        PokerStars Zoom Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

        Button ($23)
        SB ($95.19)
        Hero (BB) ($100.06)
        UTG ($65.02)
        MP ($50)
        CO ($114.96)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with J, K, A, 10
        2 folds, CO bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.25, CO calls $5.50, 1 fold

        Flop: ($16.50) K, Q, 10 (2 players)
        Hero bets $13, CO calls $13

        Turn: ($42.50) 2 (2 players)
        Hero bets $40.59, CO raises to $94.71 (All-In), Hero calls $39.22 (All-In)

        River: ($202.12) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

        Total pot: $202.12 | Rake: $2.50

        Results:
        Spoiler:

        Hero had J, K, A, 10 (straight, Ace high).
        CO had A, J, 2, Q (full house, Queens over twos).
        Outcome: CO won $199.62
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        05-23-2012 , 09:25 AM
        oh that is gross.
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        05-23-2012 , 10:32 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by plaaynde
        Sounds good

        Had to make relatively sure I'm not one of them...
        I think this is awesome that you are doing this, sounds like a lot of fun tbh. My favorite part of poker has always been building rolls. As someone who has played every level you have and you are going to play, I thought .01-.02 was easier that 100-200 play money.
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        05-23-2012 , 11:44 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by urubu111
        3bet pre. 86/60/35 wahle will 4bet a lot, which make an awesome spot to 5bet.

        flop 99% of the time id rather bet/call flop than bet/3bet/get in... but this is the 1% time, because villain is a whale and would get in w/ TXhh, JT53off etc.
        sorry, my mistake..

        being oop id rather c/r flop than bet/3bet.

        ps: AKJT x AQJ2... ya god hate you.
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        05-23-2012 , 12:08 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by plaaynde
        Here is my hopefully second last play money graph (would like this project to be completed before June )



        Three levels, 1000bb win on each. The 100/200 is left, then I'm in for $0.01/0.02!
        Took me a lil bit to realize you actually meant real play money rather than just microstakes. But yeah, play money is kinda like playing modern warfare on easiest AI setting vs. playing it online against real opponents, and when you actually start playing, I'd recommend starting out game selecting and buying in shortish at 25pl, both for max amt of fun, development as player, and profit. But if you just get your feet wet and want to limit your losses and play at stakes where losing a 500bb pot doesn't sting at all, I 'spose getting your feet wet at .01/.02 for a while couldn't hurt.
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        05-23-2012 , 02:30 PM
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        Originally Posted by ERGOPHOBIA
        I think this is awesome that you are doing this, sounds like a lot of fun tbh. My favorite part of poker has always been building rolls. As someone who has played every level you have and you are going to play, I thought .01-.02 was easier that 100-200 play money.
        Yes, there's a clear increase of skill level when going up the play money stakes. It must have to do with that those who have a roll significantly over the amount you always get if the roll vanishes have to master the play better than the average play money player. The 1/2 level had players that went in really astonishingly, my steep stepwise up graph wasn't much about variance I think. At 5/10 and 25/50 the players were better and now after the few hands I've played 100/200 it feels there really is some competition.

        After clearing 1000bb at play money 100/200 I'm in for PLO2 and if or when netting 1000bb, it's winning 1000bb at PLO5 and so on. Still have to decide when stepping down if losing, maybe simply after losing 400-500bb on the new level. Then I'm in for 100% no busto, as long as I can beat PLO2.

        For some reason I want to be very methodical about this, probably I'm extra cautious not to fool myself to overvalue my skills.

        Last edited by plaaynde; 05-23-2012 at 02:50 PM.
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        05-23-2012 , 04:02 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by urubu111
        sorry, my mistake..

        being oop id rather c/r flop than bet/3bet.

        ps: AKJT x AQJ2... ya god hate you.
        Don't like c/r in this spot. Since we're missing value from worse hands and rarely getting paid by hands that we crush in terms of equity (once he calls our c/r OTF).

        We also get into meh spots when any hearts or board pairs OTT. c/r doesn't really accomplish much in this spot
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        05-23-2012 , 05:52 PM
        i re-read my post and isn't clear...

        i meant c/r flop in the AKK8hh hand vs the 80/60/35 whale.
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        05-23-2012 , 06:07 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by urubu111
        i re-read my post and isn't clear...

        i meant c/r flop in the AKK8hh hand vs the 80/60/35 whale.
        Thanks for clarifying. I mean he is often betting this flop and a c/r cant be bad.
        Problem is we have to fire pot every turncard in the deck once he calls.
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        05-23-2012 , 06:12 PM
        wrote this: On the hand where there are no meh spots against that player type, just he sucked out horribly bad whatever spots or WAHOOO JACKING OFF AS I AM SHIPPING spots.

        while you wrote that:

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by bartolomeus
        Thanks for clarifying. I mean he is often betting this flop and a c/r cant be bad.
        Problem is we have to fire pot every turncard in the deck once he calls.
        I think what you meant was we get to fire pot jacking off the whole way!!! you know because our penis should be in rocket woody erection boner mode from our hand strength and the sexy idea of the other player in the pot. This hand in a replayer is called poker porn, during the fact it is just straight hardcore ****ing!!!


        Quote:
        Originally Posted by plaaynde
        After clearing 1000bb at play money 100/200 I'm in for PLO2 and if or when netting 1000bb, it's winning 1000bb at PLO5 and so on. Still have to decide when stepping down if losing, maybe simply after losing 400-500bb on the new level. Then I'm in for 100% no busto, as long as I can beat PLO2.

        For some reason I want to be very methodical about this, probably I'm extra cautious not to fool myself to overvalue my skills.

        This is not entirely true, it depends a lot on your BR, winrate, and Standard deviation. This site has some fun stuff to play around with:

        http://www.evplusplus.com/

        This is a very good step towards never going bust though.

        This is ridiculously wise. I say ridiculously because I do not think this thought process exists at stakes I play, or with in myself, and it should.
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        05-23-2012 , 06:20 PM
        drugs
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        05-23-2012 , 07:30 PM
        pwned.

        888 Poker - $2 PL Hi - Omaha - 2 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

        Hero (BB): $245.25
        SB: $263.40

        SB posts SB $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00

        Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero has 6 J T A

        SB raises to $4.00, Hero raises to $12.00, SB calls $8.00

        Flop: ($24.00, 2 players) Q 9 7
        Hero checks, SB bets $17.00, Hero raises to $75.00, SB calls $58.00

        Turn: ($174.00, 2 players) 3
        Hero bets $158.25, SB calls $158.25

        River: ($490.50, 2 players) 4

        Hero shows 6 J T A (High Card, Ace) (Pre 53%, Flop 48%, Turn 33%)
        SB shows 6 5 8 5 (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 47%, Flop 52%, Turn 68%)
        SB wins $489.50

        dont care if u put me on a wrap draw, it still takes balls to click the call btn twice.WP villian, wp villian
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