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01-25-2011 , 02:08 PM
I put out a WTF do I do timing tell, obviously.


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (SB): $53.38
BB: $21.39
UTG: $27.98
MP: $23.95
CO: $25.00
BTN: $25.83

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A A 8 5
UTG raises to $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $2.35, Hero raises to $8.30, 3 folds, BTN calls $5.95

Flop: ($17.85) 5 8 A (2 players)
Hero bets $17.85, BTN calls $17.53 all in

Turn: ($52.91) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($52.91) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $52.91
Hero shows A A 8 5 (a full house, Aces full of Fives)
BTN shows J K K A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
Hero wins $50.27
(Rake: $2.64)
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01-25-2011 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nachunja
so is it like a rebuy up to 4 times?
No thats a rebuy tourny lol. You get four entries so 4 tables come up. Once the number of tables < your remaining entries they combine two.
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01-25-2011 , 08:16 PM
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01-25-2011 , 10:15 PM
haha I'm no becoming a reg with these runbad posts, But I guess its better to vent a bit and let it out. so here goes:


well so much for moving down in stakes and taking a break. seems like this double guarenteed week has attracted a bunch of new fish so I couldnt resist but to bumhunt the 2-4 and 3-6 shallow games. didnt go as planned as I got crushed again.

hard to win when everyhand is either unavoidable or a pure coinflip.

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $271.00
Hero (BB): $453.00
UTG: $381.00
MP: $240.00
CO: $363.90
BTN: $1298.65

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BB with T J A K
UTG raises to $21, 4 folds, Hero raises to $66, UTG calls $45

Flop: ($135.00) A 5 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $78, UTG raises to $315 all in, Hero calls $237

Turn: ($765.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($765.00) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $765.00
Hero shows T J A K (two pair, Aces and Kings)
UTG shows 6 5 7 8 (a straight, Nine high)
UTG wins $762.00
(Rake: $3.00)


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $455.10
BB: $318.90
Hero (UTG): $577.80
MP: $86.00
CO: $179.10
BTN: $167.50

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with T Q K Q
Hero raises to $12, 4 folds, BB calls $8

Flop: ($26.00) 9 J 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $86, Hero raises to $284, BB raises to $306.90 all in, Hero calls $22.90

Turn: ($639.80) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($639.80) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $639.80
BB shows 5 9 9 6 (three of a kind, Nines)
Hero shows T Q K Q (a pair of Queens)
BB wins $636.80
(Rake: $3.00)

and a few others which were mostly against this 85-45 whale. the whale finally settled in and began playing tighter. I was about to quit the session and was steaming a bit, than this happened.

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: $459.70
Hero (UTG): $450.00
MP: $816.75
CO: $240.00
BTN: $506.55
SB: $256.35

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is UTG with T 7 9 9
Hero raises to $13.50, MP calls $13.50, CO calls $13.50, 1 fold, SB calls $10.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($60.00) 9 2 Q (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, MP folds, CO raises to $186, SB folds, Hero raises to $436.50 all in, CO calls $40.50 all in

Turn: ($513.00) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($513.00) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $513.00
Hero shows T 7 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
CO shows K 2 K 2 (three of a kind, Kings)
CO wins $510.00
(Rake: $3.00)



I think I will def take a break now until superbowl. gonna sign up for some kickboxing classes tomorrow and punch some bags.
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01-25-2011 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Swingtastic
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damn

gj. all HU?
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01-25-2011 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nachunja
damn

gj. all HU?
Thanks, yeh mainly all HU, actually looked back at my stats but it seems like I'm a losing player 6max, allbeit an extremely small sample. Playing HU makes me soooo lose and aggro and this just kills me in 6max.
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01-25-2011 , 11:58 PM
Swingtastic, EV line 1 time? (it's obv you're running hot as ****)
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01-26-2011 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaKing
Swingtastic, EV line 1 time? (it's obv you're running hot as ****)
Wish i could see your ev line for tourneys, I wanna run that good too!
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01-26-2011 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Johan5390
Wish i could see your ev line for tourneys, I wanna run that good too!
You obviously don't know me.
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01-26-2011 , 01:13 AM
lol dont know what ur name on FT is but a ROI of 149% isnt attained running badly

stop whining and be glad ur up from tournies
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01-26-2011 , 01:23 AM
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01-26-2011 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by newtoplo
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saw that u replied to this thread and thought for a second u were gonna post a graph

sondisappoint.jpeg
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01-26-2011 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by this_passing
saw that u replied to this thread and thought for a second u were gonna post a graph

sondisappoint.jpeg
sorry kid
I had posted his screenname and a rant, but decided to delete it, he's not worth it. Wish I couldn't see his posts when he is quoted (he is ofc blocked)
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01-26-2011 , 04:08 AM
Certainly going to be a tl;dr

Be glad I'm up from tourneys? You say that as if I'm supposed to be down and not up even more money in MTTs. I'll give you a breakdown for how I busted in nearly every tourney with over 5 figures for 1st where I "had a chance".

Supernova quarterly freeroll: started as chip leader when we got to 2 tables with 18 player left, didn't get down to 15 players for ~6 blind levels, possible longer, don't remember exactly but it was definitely at least 90 minutes at 15 minute blind levels. Ran A Q into KK ~17bb deep (was one of the bigger stacks at that point... lol 17bb), flop comes 2 2 4 ... I bricked out and out in 13th, guy who eventually went on to win it (was at other table) ended up winning 99 aipf 3 ways to triple up one "villain" had QQ, forget what the other guy had. My edge with the chip lead massively decreased because a bunch of nits just kept folding for a $250 pay jump from 18 - 16th place to 13 - 15th place, so positions didn't change much, only thing that changed was effective stack sizes being more than halfed so that everyone was incredibly shallow which made it a huge luck fest with not much skill involved at all. 13th for $4750, 1st was $150,000

Sunday million, busted in 48th place, make a post about some of the hands in the current SSBBV thread you are reading: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=12526
If you look at the stack sizes in my bust out hand you may be wondering to yourself why the BB has 3x as many chips as anyone else at the table... well that's because he got his TT aipf vs my KK (he 3b my raise then tanked down and called my shove) a few hands earlier, if you take a look at my stack size... It's pretty ****ing obvious I didn't win. 48th for $2793, 1st $246,424

Screwed real hard countless times in the daily 90g and nightly 70g on Stars, most recently I got in a really sick spot at I believe 2K/4K blinds (was approx 200K deep) where I had 88 and accidentally made slightly more than a min raise from UTG to 8.9K instead of the intended 9.8K, Idiot from the HJ shoves ~98K, big stack that has me covered just flats the shove in the BB which is for ~1/3 of his chips. Obv I fold my 8s since BB's range is very nutted, HJ has AT, moron that coldcalls the shove has AQ, flop comes 228, I puke. Same tourney:

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t400 - 8 players
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BB: t222186 M = 24.15
UTG: t70513 M = 7.66
UTG+1: t82854 M = 9.01
MP1: t154157 M = 16.76
Hero (MP2): t187341 M = 20.36
CO: t51412 M = 5.59
BTN: t261608 M = 28.44
SB: t292211 M = 31.76

Pre Flop: (t9200) Hero is MP2 with Q Q
2 folds, MP1 raises to t12000, Hero calls t12000, 4 folds

Flop: (t33200) 9 8 K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t33200) T (2 players)
MP1 bets t16000, Hero calls t16000

River: (t65200) Q (2 players)
MP1 bets t28000, Hero calls t28000

Final Pot: t121200
MP1 shows 3 A (a flush, Ace high)
Hero mucks Q Q
MP1 wins t121200

Top of my range, hard for him to show up with Jx that doesn't cbet the flop. Same tourney:

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2500/t5000 Blinds + t500 - 7 players
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UTG: t192890 M = 17.54
UTG+1: t46964 M = 4.27
MP: t73385 M = 6.67
CO: t144200 M = 13.11
BTN: t190160 M = 17.29
Hero (SB): t247602 M = 22.51
BB: t240289 M = 21.84

Pre Flop: (t11000) Hero is SB with Q Q
5 folds, Hero raises to t14000, BB calls t9000

Flop: (t31500) Q J A (2 players)
Hero bets t17000, BB calls t17000

Turn: (t65500) T (2 players)
Hero bets t20000, BB calls t20000

River: (t105500) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Final Pot: t105500
Hero shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
BB shows 8 9 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
BB wins t105500

Probably one of the sickest pseudoslowrolls ever, he checks behind and I'm sitting there fist pumping like sweet he didn't have a King, ship it... and then I see the bad news. Didn't even post the 4 or so other HH that happened with < 50 left where I lost decent chunks of chips losing hands like AJ aipf vs TJ. I Ended up busting in 14th for $565, 1st was $13,937.

Less than a week ago ended up losing AA vs 77 aipf for the chip lead with 25 left in the 50-50 on full tilt, busted soon after because I lost 90%+ of my chips in the AA hand, got $200 or something, first was somewhere between 9K and 10K, don't remember.

Did I run bad in the HU "battle" in a lot of MTTs where I finished 2nd but had enough Sklansky bucks to win the tournament 3 or 4 times? Yes, would the couple of players who have sweating/railed me at final tables agree I ran like ****? Yes.

I don't know why a bunch of you guys think I run ridiculously hot or something, there are maybe only a handful of players on PokerStars in 2010 (where the vast majority of my cash play was) who have run worse. Did I "lose" a substantial amount of money in the PokerStars PLO games this year? Yes, all you have to do is check PTR to confirm. Did I have major tilt Issues where I would routinely light money on fire by shoving stacks in after losing a bunch of pots in a row thus making my run bad effectively many times worse? Yes. Did I get coaching sessions for PLO because I was at my wits' end at why I would just consistently lose for practically the entire year no matter what my EV said I should be up? Yes I did, and after my first sweat session I was told "I really don't know why you aren't beating these games because you definitely should be, my best advice to you would be to just keep playing through your downswing and eventually it will turn around." (kinda dislike putting it in quotes because its not a direct quote and somewhat paraphrased, but did so to separate it from my text). Obviously I felt I learned a lot in the session and so booked another session, towards the end of the second sweat session I asked him what separates a winning player at 100PLO from a winner at 600 or 1K PLO and we discussed that for a bit. He then recommended that I actually start taking shots at higher stakes (1/2 - 2/4) because I would be able to beat the games and that the rake would be less of an issue, even though I was losing (real dollars) at 100PLO at the time. In case you were wondering how I did in terms of $ won (lost) over the 2 sweat sessions for around 1200 hands? I ended up losing ~$1350 at 100PLO while being sweated by one of the biggest winners in those games. I certainly think he is a great person and PLO coach and would recommend him to anyone looking to get coaching, but losing at like 50ptBB over the coaching sessions just made me wonder even more why I couldn't ever book winning sessions. And if you are sitting there wondering who I got coaching from because you are looking to book some sessions don't even worry about it, not going to be worth your money or his time because you are probably too dumb to learn anything if you can't deduce who it is

SeakingsNotes:
I don't run good at any form of poker.
You would have to be a moron to think I run good.
I tilted incredibly bad for all of 2010 after running bad and light money on fire quicker than a drunk JorgeArias.
Got PLO coaching, learned a lot, still ran like ****.
Even more Stars regs are complaining about running bad this year because they can't steal my EV because I don't play the games any more .
Xr8ed is still a pussy and wont play me.

And about MTTs, obviously any MTT you final table or do really well in you ran incredibly hot, no way around that, if you play enough MTTs you will have big scores from time to time. I'm not sitting here saying I didn't run hot in the MTTs I took top 3 in because I did, but you can't ignore the other 1550 MTTs that I played and didn't. The long run is long...



btw Snort I think you are the last person who should say anything about me running good, I'm 99% sure you are the person who has run the most above EV vs me per hand played.

End of rant.



Good luck at the tables
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01-26-2011 , 04:55 AM
Shipping 2 tourneys for 1st/2nd place in 1 day isn't running good? lmao
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01-26-2011 , 05:16 AM
Sappie22, In terms of poker you're pretty much at the bottom of the barrel, you need to defeat a few more opponents before you want to try to talk **** to me.

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01-26-2011 , 05:59 AM
SeaKing is on a killing spree!
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01-26-2011 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaKing
Sappie22, In terms of poker you're pretty much at the bottom of the barrel, you need to defeat a few more opponents before you want to try to talk **** to me.
Sorry sir, I wanna become as good as you are, how much $ do you ask for teaching me how to whine like a little baby everytime you lose a 70/30?
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01-26-2011 , 06:38 AM
When you defeat Sub-Zero let me know.
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01-26-2011 , 06:53 AM
I almost defeated him last time. I can easily handle him but I ran terrible. He just luckboxed dogded all my attacks and my controller wasn't registering all my clicks. I swear to god nobody runs worse than me in mortal kombat
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01-26-2011 , 06:59 AM
^

lol
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01-26-2011 , 07:16 AM
Sappie thats ok, if your controller isn't registering well you go to the arcade and play with a joystick, oh wait, putting in a quarter would bust your bankroll, sorry guess that's not going to work
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01-26-2011 , 07:21 AM
Hmm yeah that might've been funny if it was true, too bad it isn't. Nice try though!
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01-26-2011 , 07:25 AM
Oh yeah btw, I rather be a winner at PLO2 than a loser at PLO100
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01-26-2011 , 07:33 AM
That would make sense If I wasn't a lifetime winner at every stake from 2PLO - 1000PLO lifetime
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