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05-23-2015 , 11:45 AM

#36576

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,280

Can't flop like this in NLHE, yo

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36501431

BTN: $5.72 (57.2 bb)
SB: $19.65 (196.5 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $12.15 (121.5 bb)
MP: $10.02 (100.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $18.41 (184.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.05) 4

(3 players)
MP bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1, BTN folds, MP calls $0.50

Turn: ($3.05) J

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.37, MP raises to $7.03, Hero calls $5.66

River: ($17.11) 8

(2 players)
MP bets $1.69 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.69

Results: $20.49 pot ($0.87 rake)
Final Board: 4

MP showed J

and lost (-$10.02 net)
Hero showed 5

and won $19.62 ($9.60 net)

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05-23-2015 , 04:38 PM

#36577

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

Where was the Ts Jc turn and river combo =P

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05-23-2015 , 05:14 PM

#36578

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,280

Dude, me minraising (Which I quite literally never do) the flop makes me almost deserve losing to 56ss**

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05-23-2015 , 05:20 PM

#36579

coon74

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 10,684

You had the 5

blocker, though

Why didn't you 3bet pre? Did you have a special read on BTN's squeeze-happiness?

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05-23-2015 , 05:43 PM

#36580

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,280

BTN was playing 74/41/27 (3b), its a standard 3b for me otherwise, I'm VERY aggro pre lol. Prop too aggroo.... ANd I can't even remember the last time I just minraised flop, just didn't know wtf to do on that flop I suppose. Happy it worked out

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05-24-2015 , 03:41 AM

#36581

ribas2

newbie

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 49

Nice one v aggro villain ... thanks I guess

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2716479
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $10.85
Hero (SB): $11.38
BB: $20.50
UTG: $11.21
MP: $3.33
CO: $24.22

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 3

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.85, BB calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.55) 4

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.70, BB calls $1.70, BTN folds

Turn: ($5.95) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($5.95) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.99, BB calls $3.99

Final Pot: $13.93
Hero shows 3

(a flush, King high)
BB shows J

(a flush, Ace high)
BB wins $13.34
(Rake: $0.59)

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05-24-2015 , 04:21 AM

#36582

F_Ivanovic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,659

Two straight flushes possible - it's not the worst flat OTR but yeah given he's supposedly? aggro then you'd think he can still value jam and get value from your K high flushes.

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05-24-2015 , 05:55 AM

#36583

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

Raising river feels pretty bad to me there

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05-24-2015 , 06:00 AM

#36584

ribas2

newbie

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 49

well I didnt even notice str8 flushes possibilities , so I was snapping river raise against him lmao , being awake for 30+ hours and watching ufc at the same time does this to my mind .... so I should thank him for playing this hand well

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05-24-2015 , 10:55 AM

#36585

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02, $0.01 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36507131

SB: $37.35 (1,867.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.12 (256 bb)
CO: $5 (250 bb)
BTN: $26.53 (1,326.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2

CO folds, BTN raises to $0.11, SB raises to $0.39, Hero folds, BTN calls $0.28

Flop: ($0.84) 9

(2 players)
SB bets $0.53, BTN raises to $2.40, SB calls $1.87

Turn: ($5.64) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, BTN bets $5.45, SB calls $5.45

River: ($16.54) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, BTN bets $16.24, SB raises to $29.10 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.04

Results: $53.10 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 9

SB showed 9

and won $52.80 ($26.27 net)
BTN showed Q

and lost (-$26.53 net)

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05-24-2015 , 11:51 AM

#36586

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Rake trap is as real as anything.

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $2.68 (134 bb)
SB: $1.78 (89 bb)
BB: $0.94 (47 bb)
UTG: $1.27 (63.5 bb)
MP: $2 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $8.44 (422 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, BB folds

Flop: ($0.26) Q

(4 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.26) K

(4 players)
SB bets $0.12, MP calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, BTN calls $0.12

River: ($0.74) 9

(4 players)
SB bets $0.36, MP raises to $1.49, Hero raises to $5.55, BTN calls $2.50 and is all-in, SB calls $1.24 and is all-in, MP calls $0.33 and is all-in

Results: $9.16 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: Q

BTN showed T

and won $2.59 (-$0.09 net)
SB showed J

and won $1.73 (-$0.05 net)
MP showed J

and won $1.95 (-$0.05 net)
Hero showed 9

and won $2.59 (-$0.09 net)

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05-24-2015 , 12:26 PM

#36587

F_Ivanovic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,659

I should stop reading BBV, can't help commenting strat on hands lol - but you kind of didn't help yourself when you 3b river when you aren't getting called by anything worse!

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05-24-2015 , 12:32 PM

#36588

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,489

Ive seen so many times people not even knowing the rules (think they have straight) or repeatedly misreading their hand so im never just calling in these spots. Mby only vs very competent regs and when the pot is not rake capped yet.
But it sucks to even think about rake when considering a decision, just shows how ridicilous it is, dat is rake.
I recently read from somewhere that a guy 3bet less because of the rake, now that is taking it to a next level lol.

Last edited by J0hny; 05-24-2015 at 12:43 PM.

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05-24-2015 , 12:41 PM

#36589

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Yes, 3bet is bad, but I cbf playing 2PLO without donking around a little bit. Trying to enjoy myself more than anything.

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05-24-2015 , 12:45 PM

#36590

Olangotang

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,482

i hate you all blood sucking leeches lol

someone tell me what DITT means pls

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05-24-2015 , 01:31 PM

#36591

Therar

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 187

Been a lovely week down at zoom 5. (12bb/100 in EV)

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05-24-2015 , 01:59 PM

#36592

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

Quote:

Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic

I should stop reading BBV, can't help commenting strat on hands lol - but you kind of didn't help yourself when you 3b river when you aren't getting called by anything worse!

made me laugh. come on, this hand was played at PLO2, and you´re getting called by sets all the time in this spot.

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05-24-2015 , 03:34 PM

#36593

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,489

minraise is always nuts imo
mind the action jackson 4b pre

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $195.45
Hero (BTN/SB): $650.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 4

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, BB calls $9

Flop: ($27.00) 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

Turn: ($51.00) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($51.00) 7

(2 players)
BB bets $50.50, Hero raises to $101, BB calls $50.50

Final Pot: $253.00
BB shows 5

(a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
Hero shows 4

(a pair of Sevens)
BB wins $252.50
(Rake: $0.50)

Last edited by J0hny; 05-24-2015 at 03:48 PM.

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05-24-2015 , 04:07 PM

#36594

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

I wonder what´s worse - him flatting or you (min) raising on the river lol

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05-24-2015 , 04:13 PM

#36595

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,489

He tanked like forever, doubt he was considering raising, but folding, for real. That minraise by me wasn't a spew, but def looks like if you don't know nothing about the guy.

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05-24-2015 , 04:33 PM

#36596

Grethe

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,310

^My eyes are burning

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05-24-2015 , 04:36 PM

#36597

Mt.FishNoob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

yeah wtf is that 200bb min raise after turn check, lawl

his flat is of course good, especially if you know johnny like he does.

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05-24-2015 , 04:37 PM

#36598

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,489

I hate to post strat in bbv but that's the truth. I wasn't tilted or anything and it was a completely conscious decision based on solid sample.
It's easy to judge when you see villains hand, but the fact is, he will fold all bad houses and don't even consider calling with straights/naked 7x. And to him me 4betting, checking AA on straight turn and minraising river with A full makes a lot of sense, lets not be results oriented.

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05-24-2015 , 07:27 PM

#36599

F_Ivanovic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,659

Quote:

Originally Posted by mumpfmampf

made me laugh. come on, this hand was played at PLO2, and you´re getting called by sets all the time in this spot.

Didn't realise properly it was PLO2 but not too relevant - it's 4 way to river. There isn't "1 card straight" - ie. villain needs JT to make nuts so he can't think this is like holdem and think he has a straight when he doesn't with just 1 card. Most sets bet somewhere and don't suddenly go crazy OTR when straight is on board, even at PLO2 when it's 4 way. It's gone bet + raise first to act a 3b is always nuts. Even if we can sometimes get calls from worse, we can probably induce way more calls from worse just by flatting.

Anyway, fun hand for 4 people to show up with nuts OTR! Def unusual

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05-25-2015 , 01:48 AM

#36600

urubu222

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 504

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $33.52 (67 bb)
Hero (BB): $280.90 (561.8 bb)
UTG: $98.84 (197.7 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $142.80 (285.6 bb)
BTN: $29.97 (59.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

4 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 7

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3) J

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

River: ($7) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

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