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12-08-2012 , 05:36 PM
€0.10/€0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (€8.23) 41bb
blurghh (CO) (€20) 100bb
BTN (€13.42) 67bb
SB (€24.34) 122bb
BB (€33.55) 168bb

Pre-Flop: (€0.30, 5 players) blurghh is CO 8 J A A
UTG calls €0.20 (€8.03), blurghh raises to €0.90 (€19.10), BTN calls €0.90 (€12.52), 1 fold, BB calls €0.70 (€32.65), UTG calls €0.70 (€7.33)

Flop: 7 10 5 (€3.70, 4 players)
BB checks (€32.65), UTG checks (€7.33), blurghh checks (€19.10), BTN checks (€12.52)

Turn: 5 (€3.70, 4 players)
BB checks (€32.65), UTG bets €1.20 (€6.13), blurghh calls €1.20 (€17.90), 1 fold, BB folds (€32.65)

River: A (€6.10, 2 players)
UTG bets €6.10 (€0.03), blurghh goes all-in €17.90 (€0.00), UTG folds (€0.03)

Final Pot: €30.10

blurghh wins €29.19 (net +€9.19)

UTG lost €8.20
BTN lost €0.90
BB lost €1.10

Fold equity FTW
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12-09-2012 , 05:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinz
TIL it's possible to play 3k hands in a day without losing >50bb in any single hand. It's NL but I always post in ssplo anyway so fk it.

So you've started shortstacking?
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12-09-2012 , 10:26 AM
I guess you could say so.

Spoiler:
It's all with 100bb+ stack but at iPoker speed tables and they have 30bb min buyin and unlimited ratholing, so practically half the seats are taken by shortstacks. Obviously that high amount of SSers also tones down the aggression between full stacks and forces smaller pf raisesizes, which is why there's only a few big pots for every 1k hands.
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12-09-2012 , 10:37 AM
Anyone else get winning tilt? Think I've posted about this before but it's a major problem I have. When I'm winning loads and running well I start playing far too many hands super aggressively and eventually lose some back.

Yesterday I won ~25 BI in about an hour and then dumped 10 BI back playing like a moron and 3/betting heap loads more than normal thinking I was going to win every bloody hand!
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12-09-2012 , 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony James
Anyone else get winning tilt? Think I've posted about this before but it's a major problem I have. When I'm winning loads and running well I start playing far too many hands super aggressively and eventually lose some back.

Yesterday I won ~25 BI in about an hour and then dumped 10 BI back playing like a moron and 3/betting heap loads more than normal thinking I was going to win every bloody hand!
this fks up my game quite often and it is much harder to detect than other types of tilt, UNTIL YOUR GOOD SESSION HAS GONE SUPER SOUR
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12-09-2012 , 11:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony James
Anyone else get winning tilt? Think I've posted about this before but it's a major problem I have.
Mememe!

I don't do that during some big sessions, but lets sau if I win big some night it's quaranteed that I lose some back during the next day..

E: Nice job chinz, and they said edges are small at nl. Guess they haven't had an omaha guru at their tables before that..
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12-09-2012 , 12:31 PM
Anyone have any tips for this problem I have, though it seems many others have it as well?

I stop playing when I'm quickly up a lot, but don't if I'm down...

This has been bugging me recently a lot.
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12-09-2012 , 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roggo
Anyone have any tips for this problem I have, though it seems many others have it as well?

I stop playing when I'm quickly up a lot, but don't if I'm down...

This has been bugging me recently a lot.
same with me.

I think it has to do with being too results oriented and wanting to 'book' a win. While losing, obviously we want to get back to +ve
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12-09-2012 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roggo
Anyone have any tips for this problem I have, though it seems many others have it as well?

I stop playing when I'm quickly up a lot, but don't if I'm down...

This has been bugging me recently a lot.
had this problem for a long time too. only thing that helped me somewhat was trying to completely disregard results when playing, only checking balance and session stats and stuff on a weekly basis now.
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12-09-2012 , 01:49 PM
Yeah, that's a 9-to-5 worker mindset. We've all been taught that labour is always rewarded, hence losing sessions are viewed as a result of lack of effort, like a salary deduction for butchering a task.

Personally, I find continuing a losing session and stopping a winning one appropriate for myself because I usually spew more at the beginning and losses force me to focus more (and conversely, wins make me less focused). That must be due to lack of proper warm-up, though I convince myself I do it well (read 2+2 strat before sessions, sometimes too long).
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12-09-2012 , 01:59 PM
****, I had this problem several times. I solved it by identifying how I play when so focused because the anger/stress of losing is putting you in the zone, and represented this identification with a trigger thought(s) which I now apply to every single ****ing hand. Not revealing more though... The downside is that this habit of increasing survival instincts leaks into real world decisions and it is a mind **** to consider whether that philosophy is a good thing or not.

The nut worst thing someone can think, is that grinding is easy, the game is easy, which is easily fell into when on heat, or even just running at ev. Coldness reminds you, key is to remind yourself in anticipation to keep burning before instead of waiting for the real world reminder. Again applies to life and is a mind ****.
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12-09-2012 , 03:34 PM
Thx, MFN, that's a hell of advice! I've got enough losses behind to trigger survival instincts. The only thing is that I should know my limits: I'm sometimes on the verge of killing myself thinking about the past .

I've x-posted the discussion into the Psychology forum, as it apparently belongs there, let's continue it there and hope for help of reg posters therein. Sorry for playing the mod role, I shoulda asked napsus or GGaRJ but am too impatient to get answers.
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12-09-2012 , 07:20 PM
Lol, u don't need to be a mod to x-post, great initiative regardless

BBV sometimes turns into a second LC-thread, but I guess there's no point in applying too strict rules to it. At least we should try and start completely new topics in LC
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12-09-2012 , 11:27 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($226)
Hero ($323)
CO ($110)
BTN ($126)

Hero antes $0.10
CO antes $0.10
BTN antes $0.10
SB antes $0.10

Dealt to Hero 3 A J T

fold, fold, SB raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $6.10, SB raises to $18.70, Hero calls $12.60

FLOP ($37.80) Q 9 6

SB checks, Hero bets $26.50, SB calls $26.50

TURN ($90.80) Q 9 6 K

SB checks, Hero bets $33.50, SB calls $33.50

RIVER ($157) Q 9 6 K 3

SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Hero shows 3 A J T
(Pre 51%, Flop 57.4%, Turn 90.0%)

SB shows Q 8 J K
(Pre 49%, Flop 42.6%, Turn 10.0%)

Hero wins $157

this missclick mroe tilting than being perfect runner runner imo...
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12-10-2012 , 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony James
Anyone else get winning tilt? Think I've posted about this before but it's a major problem I have. When I'm winning loads and running well I start playing far too many hands super aggressively and eventually lose some back.

Yesterday I won ~25 BI in about an hour and then dumped 10 BI back playing like a moron and 3/betting heap loads more than normal thinking I was going to win every bloody hand!
25BI in an hour?? teach plz
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12-10-2012 , 06:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
25BI in an hour?? teach plz
One of my tables was very lucrative during this session...
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12-10-2012 , 01:22 PM
Played non deep tables for the first time in forever, for myself and anyone who has ever played vs me my stats came out as

21.7/15.6/10.6

I am now a confirmed nit.
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12-10-2012 , 01:46 PM
lol, 10%+ 3bet isn't exactly a nit
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12-10-2012 , 02:54 PM
so i started playing a little plo...graph shows my last +-1k hands. suddenly i ran 600BB or so below AiEV within 500 hands at one point -.- nice welcome, plo!

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12-10-2012 , 03:12 PM
PLO usually takes it easy on new players... they'll lure you in thinking "so, after all this isn't such a crazy game everyone's making it to be". Don't think for a moment that running 600bb below EV in less than a hour is really bad luck. Once the PLO gods notice you're addicted they won't be taking it so easy anymore and you'll notice an extra zero appearing on that amount of blinds.

You can expect something like this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by napsus
eskimo, here i come.

But the worst thing is that you've already played more than 1k hands, it might be too late for you to get away. Some have tried to quit, but we all know how it ends.

"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in"
Anonymous PLO regular
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12-10-2012 , 03:24 PM
well, yes i was already thinking this might get even worse...and since i started playing plo i didnt even look what was going on at my regular NLH tables...im hooked and i have a strange feeling this might be my end
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12-10-2012 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Olangotang
Played non deep tables for the first time in forever, for myself and anyone who has ever played vs me my stats came out as

21.7/15.6/10.6

I am now a confirmed nit.
liar ... i have u running at 31/25/21.6 (although, some deep tables in the mix :P)
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12-10-2012 , 09:59 PM
Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN/SB): $173.64
BB: $128.64

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with x x x x
Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 5 J 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($24.00) J (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero raises to $17, BB raises to $32, Hero raises to $55, BB folds

Final Pot: $88.00
Hero wins $87.50
(Rake: $0.50)

Spoiler:
Hero is BTN/SB with 6 8 K 7
Spoiler:
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12-11-2012 , 01:14 AM
withdrew all my winnings and what happens ?
flopping 10 times top set, losing 10 times to a flushdraw or one outer quads, nfd+wraps blank on regular basis.

this omaha is a btch, can someone confirm the doomswitch on cash out ?

should play 78/45 like all the greek and hve big fun making boats every hand yo
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12-11-2012 , 07:33 AM
shouldnt have cashed out, this sh*t is ridicoulus, dont remember that ive ran that bad in over 5 years of poker.

didnt loose much but the sheer amount of 10% 2 outer suckouts and 65 vs 35 loses is just absurd.
like 30 buy-ins under ev

**** cant be a coincidence, started exactly when i cashed out ....
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