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Rush PLO50, OOP deep with AA and a royal draw Rush PLO50, OOP deep with AA and a royal draw

03-06-2010 , 07:35 AM
Playing rush, but button is playing 4 tables and the pool is like 50-60 players, so we've bumped into each other a bunch. Villain seems relatively straightforward and not an idiot. On the turn, villain has just over a PSB left. I have no idea what to do here - bet/call, check/call, check/fold all seem plausible to me.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $121.00
MP: $48.30
CO: $40.50
BTN: $136.60
SB: $49.35
Hero (BB): $147.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 3 A A T
UTG raises to $1.50, 1 fold, CO calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.75, UTG calls $6.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $6.25

Flop: ($25.00) Q J 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $25, UTG calls $25, BTN folds

Turn: ($75.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero?
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03-06-2010 , 07:46 AM
I dont know if im folding that tbh.

I like a c/r, on the basis, we will prob get him to fold the Q9xx kinda hands, and only the str8 hands will call. And even 810xx might not call, cos we are repping a very strong hand. Even when they have a str8/set, we are not THAT far behind
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03-06-2010 , 08:50 AM
He is not folding to a c/r with just over 1 psb left. I b/c. We have 11 outs if he has the straight.
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03-06-2010 , 08:52 AM
my bad. God i do that all the time. Dont read all the info before i make my decision, why i lose so much stupid monies. *facepalm*
Ye, i bet pot and call then.
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03-06-2010 , 02:01 PM
I think I like going for a c/r here. nice just to get pretty much everything in on flop/
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03-06-2010 , 10:35 PM
I discussed with another friend, and he suggested checking the flop, with the intention of a checkraise all in. I like that line the most of all the ways I've thought about it.
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03-06-2010 , 10:58 PM
Either a c/r or a gay under half pot bet on flop I agree is best I think.
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03-06-2010 , 10:59 PM
checking the flop seems pretty bad. Youre against two players, youve flopped a strong draw, but your hand is vulnerable to all kinds of turn cards. What kinds of hands are we hoping are going to bet/fold this flop for us? bottom two pair maybe? A really small wrap / OESD? Are we doing this for value? Are we really trying to get value out of the hands that will bet/call us? Cause we arent really that far ahead of those hands (with the possible exception of combo hands with lower flush draws; were in good shape against like KsQx9s). I dont think theres enough utility in c/r the flop to anywhere near make up for what we give up giving a free card to two hands with AA in a 3bet pot.

Call me old fashioned, but i dont see anything wrong with a little bet/bet. Youve got a blocker, youve got a really nice redraw, you should never be folding in this spot, and you could definitely get him to fold all manner of two pair hands that are currently ahead of you. A lot of the worrisome hands would have probably raised the flop (QJ, sets) so at this point youre really only worried that he turned a straight. I think his flop peel range should be big enough that you dont need to be terrified that he got there. And as you know, you have redraws.
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03-07-2010 , 09:29 AM
c/r flop is an option to consider. b/c turn.
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03-07-2010 , 03:55 PM
I think preflop potting vs two players oop isnt optimal...because as we all know ppl dont like to fold to 3 pets preflop, especially in position. And these aces arent exactly the type of hand we wanna build a big pot with because UTG and BTN are pretty deep and they're both gonna call almost always. Most of the time (unless u get the flop u got) its gonna leave u oop against two deep players on the flop where check/folding or bet/folding aces sucks but u gotta do it. Id probably still 3bet this but something other than full pot that way it will leave you more wiggle room on later streets since as played stack sizes kinda suck for any type of semi bluff check raise on turn. So with that said, as the hand stands I like leading flop but not full pot just mainly for pot control and theoretically we wanna get this hand all in on the flop and not the turn if we miss. So i like a smaller lead in effect maybe looking like dry aces and getting someone to repop you. As played on the turn we might still be best with the aces and up against a dominated flush draw altho unlikely due to card removal (we got 3 spades yo). His range is going to inlcude alot of straights that got there since top two or sets would raise our flop pot bet but our redraw is too strong since we have the gutter to the nuts, the spade to better nuts and the King of spades to the immortal nuts. Id bet turn and hope we push him off two pair and if we get raised then call it off and pray.
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