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PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,335)
BB ($106)
UTG ($1,550)
CO ($400)
Hero ($1,660)



UTG calls $4, CO checks, Hero raises to $22, fold, BB calls $18, UTG calls $18, fold

FLOP ($72) T 6 5

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $44, BB folds, UTG calls $44

TURN ($160) T 6 5 K

UTG checks, Hero bets $141, UTG calls $141

RIVER ($442) T 6 5 K 5

UTG bets $248,

The actual hand I hold is not relevant to my question

Guy is a total drooler, like 83/13, but seems pretty passive [obviously ******s can spazz out though] Ive seen him be a redic big station, and also not turn a hand into a bluff oop when he had no SD value, which is obviously pretty relevant to this spot. He has some aggression though, with 3-4 SPR he just c shoves anything he wants to play etc

Do we call this river bet with all of our bluff catchers? anything that beats one pair basically? Or we give him credit for a 5 alot?

Just fold unless you have a 5 or better, you said youve never seen him turn a bricked hand into a bluff. No need to hero call these players when you can usually crush them in much easier spots that will show up before they leave.

If I did call it would e with Aces and AK/KT I guess

if it was me and I had let's say JJxx here idk I could find both a fold and call, but bein how villain bet smallish and doesn't take this line much as a bluff we think, then its more of fold I believe

I mean you probably havent played that much with him correct? As most players with those stats dont tend to get too much volume in so you cant be super confident in that he is really passive. I would call here and expect to see 65 and T5 plus some random 5s a bit but I do think we are ahead enough. Its a weird spot to bluff but he is not that likely to realize that.

I probably call with AT+ if I get to this spot with a hand like that

Villain's line (given his description) makes no sense for any kind of full house at all, if he has you beat he has a random 5 that binked. Expect to see a missed draw and call imo

i think i fold against droolers here a lot (unless they're super insane), cause everytime i wanna say a LP superfish would never have 56 or a random 5 here, i always call and they always do.

From my experience, people don't bluff like this.

Raise imo

lol why cant we see ur hand? Txxx has the same value as AAxx in this spot. I'd fold

threads like this make me want to punch babies in the face

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I agree TXX has same value as AA here, that was the point of the thread

posting what I had in the hand would have served no purpose

How can Aces have the same value as Txxx here when he can be donking a King, Jacks or Queens with with 78, a 6 or a gutshot?

Most likely it will be a king I know and that isnt super likely but theres still just as much chance he has a K when 'bluffing' than he is bluffing in the first place. I wouldnt put it past a donk with those stats to show up with aces either some small % of the time.

Anyway I doubt hes bluffing enough over having a 5 (or a king if you want to call with a T here) to make calling good.

makes no sence for villain to bluff with JJ/QQ/Kx etc.

True, but someone who plays 83/13 doesnt usually do a lot that makes sense