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04-23-2010 , 07:41 PM
^^Blah. Ye hate it, but with 1/3 of my stack in pre, im shoving most, if not all flops.
I hate it ye, but i shove.
I hate c/f when he mite be bluffing with like 3456..+ you have the bd fd, + the OP...meh.
Like i sed, im not happy bout it, but im shoving.
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04-28-2010 , 04:37 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $26.01
UTG: $11.88
MP: $9.70
CO: $11.05
Hero (BTN): $24.65
SB: $2.63

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J 6 T T
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, BB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.05) 9 6 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.45) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, BB raises to $4.50

Rush, no reads. raise pre to iso. must bet flop i guess. turn is a bet too to get value from worse set/2 pairs/draws. now fold or play river?
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04-28-2010 , 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmmkay
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $26.01
UTG: $11.88
MP: $9.70
CO: $11.05
Hero (BTN): $24.65
SB: $2.63

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J 6 T T
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, BB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.05) 9 6 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.45) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, BB raises to $4.50

Rush, no reads. raise pre to iso. must bet flop i guess. turn is a bet too to get value from worse set/2 pairs/draws. now fold or play river?
How can u even be thinking to fold on the turn? Top set + FD isnt good to continue?
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05-05-2010 , 02:49 AM
I couldn't find a stats thread on the first few pages of a search but I think this can fit here.

Over the last few months I feel like I've learned how to beat micro PLO pretty well, and I'm winning handily in every position but the blinds. I don't expect to necessarily turn a profit in the blinds, but I'm losing money at an uncomfortable rate (36bb/100 bb 49bb/100 sb). I'm pretty sure I'm just too loose from the blinds. Anyway I was just wondering what you guys are typically running vpip\pfr wise from the blinds.
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05-05-2010 , 03:08 AM
sea--- your blind rate is

sb: -50bb/100
bb: -100bb/100

so youre playing extremely well from bb

sb should need work, at your current rate its only 2% better for you to play as you are vs folding EVERY sb
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05-05-2010 , 03:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmmkay
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $26.01
UTG: $11.88
MP: $9.70
CO: $11.05
Hero (BTN): $24.65
SB: $2.63

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J 6 T T
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, BB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.05) 9 6 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.45) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, BB raises to $4.50

Rush, no reads. raise pre to iso. must bet flop i guess. turn is a bet too to get value from worse set/2 pairs/draws. now fold or play river?
easy call no.
what you do if he flush comes in OTR and he pots at you would be more interresting
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05-05-2010 , 03:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arun82
I'd fold pre, fold on the flop. Why do we want to get it in with only top pair and backdoor draws?
cuz we have with 11 outs, a BDFD, and a BDSD, and thus have enough equity.
Id fold this pre too
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05-05-2010 , 03:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spenda
you can't shove, you should bet like $2 and jam turn

potting there is silly and just doesn't let anyone screw up
this
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05-05-2010 , 03:15 AM
alright that is a good point on BB thanks.

I'm playing super loose from SB (32/21) and I think I'm calling w/ too many hands that would be good if I had position, as well as opening too many pots as steal attempts
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05-05-2010 , 03:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tirppa
Any merit in checking or just bet and hope villain goes nuts with trip tens or spades?

$0.50/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($56.70)
Tirppa ($54.60)
BTN ($49.50)
SB ($42.60)
BB ($72.65)

Pre-Flop: ($1, 5 players) Tirppa is CO A A 8 5
1 fold, Tirppa raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: 10 A 10 ($4.50, 2 players)
SB checks, Tirppa bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

Turn: 4 ($13.50, 2 players)
SB checks, Tirppa ($48.1)?
halfpot imo
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05-05-2010 , 06:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arun82
Villain seems competent, though I don't have any specific reads. Standard call with the overpair and the 2nd nut FD?

Party Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BB: $25.31
CO: $24.25
Hero (BTN): $46.81
SB: $28.86

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K 9 K Q
CO raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.85, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.60, CO calls $1.35

Flop: ($7.40) J 4 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $7.03, SB raises to $27.01, BB folds, CO folds, Hero?

this on is close imo. either way cant be too wrong. very villian dependent
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05-05-2010 , 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seandigs
I couldn't find a stats thread on the first few pages of a search but I think this can fit here.

Over the last few months I feel like I've learned how to beat micro PLO pretty well, and I'm winning handily in every position but the blinds. I don't expect to necessarily turn a profit in the blinds, but I'm losing money at an uncomfortable rate (36bb/100 bb 49bb/100 sb). I'm pretty sure I'm just too loose from the blinds. Anyway I was just wondering what you guys are typically running vpip\pfr wise from the blinds.
I'm currently running -11.1 bb's in the sb, VPIP 26.4%, PFR 22%, -26.4 bb's in the bb, VPIP 16.1%, PFR 7.8 %. Sample size is taken from 52kish hands at 50NL.

I don't think that getting your VPIP to a certain figure is going to make you a winner or a loser in the long run, it's the situational aspect that's important. I play from my blinds if (1) I have a strong hand(obv) or(2) I am targeting a certain player who I believe is poor/I can outplay on later streets. Lately, I'm working on trying to exploit the c/o/button when I believe they are raising wide. Having mixed results with that one but there's definitly an edge there against certain villains.
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05-05-2010 , 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thatsnotmyname
I'm currently running -11.1 bb's in the sb, VPIP 26.4%, PFR 22%, -26.4 bb's in the bb, VPIP 16.1%, PFR 7.8 %. Sample size is taken from 52kish hands at 50NL.

I don't think that getting your VPIP to a certain figure is going to make you a winner or a loser in the long run, it's the situational aspect that's important. I play from my blinds if (1) I have a strong hand(obv) or(2) I am targeting a certain player who I believe is poor/I can outplay on later streets. Lately, I'm working on trying to exploit the c/o/button when I believe they are raising wide. Having mixed results with that one but there's definitly an edge there against certain villains.
you may be trying to do this too much in sb, giving yourself up and position to the BB---try being more conscious of whos in bb, if hes going to fold then you can be wider but if hes seeing alot of hands w/ 2ppl in then tighten up
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05-05-2010 , 01:12 PM
and instead of being more open in sb, because its where you should be the tightest since youre oop to the whole table, open more hands utg/hj where you have position on the weaker players if the table will let you
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05-19-2010 , 08:26 PM
Shove?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.02 Ante - 6 players
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BB: $11.49
Hero (UTG): $26.86
MP: $29.68
CO: $64.58
BTN: $26.38
SB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.27) Hero is UTG with T 9 A Q
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, CO calls $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.37) 9 4 Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60, BB raises to $2.50, Hero...
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05-21-2010 , 04:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChimpyChoo
Shove?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.02 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $11.49
Hero (UTG): $26.86
MP: $29.68
CO: $64.58
BTN: $26.38
SB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.27) Hero is UTG with T 9 A Q
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, CO calls $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.37) 9 4 Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60, BB raises to $2.50, Hero...
no- dead vs sets, not big favorit vs combo draws. i just call or if villain is nit fold and play next hand
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05-21-2010 , 05:42 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
($94.50)
Hero ($89.65)

Dealt to Hero A 6 A 7

Hero raises to $1.50, raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, calls $9

FLOP ($27) T 8 T

checks, Hero bets $9.50, raises to $55.50, Hero raises to $76.15 (AI), calls $20.65

TURN ($179) T 8 T 2

RIVER ($179) T 8 T 2 J

shows Q 4 J A
(Pre 36%, Flop 21.3%, Turn 10.0%)

Hero shows A 6 A 7
(Pre 64%, Flop 78.7%, Turn 90.0%)

Hero wins $178
villain def. known I'm 4betting more than AA here. Thoughts on betsizing in 4bet pots to induce?

Last edited by Olangotang; 05-21-2010 at 05:53 AM.
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05-21-2010 , 05:49 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
($177)
Hero ($144)

Dealt to Hero K K Q 7

Hero raises to $1.50, raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, calls $9

FLOP ($27) 5 T 3

bets $13.50, Hero raises to $67.50, raises to $163 (AI), Hero calls $63.35 (AI)

TURN ($288) 5 T 3 3

RIVER ($288) 5 T 3 3 J

shows J 3 4 A
(Pre 49%, Flop 66.1%, Turn 95.0%)

Hero shows K K Q 7
(Pre 51%, Flop 33.9%, Turn 5.0%)

wins $288

super standard or argument for slowing down this deep? both our 3bet and 4bet ranges are pretty wide, obv. folding to 5bet pre though

Last edited by Olangotang; 05-21-2010 at 05:55 AM.
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05-21-2010 , 05:50 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
($179)
Hero ($149)

Dealt to Hero K T T J

Hero raises to $1.50, raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

FLOP ($9) A 5 6

checks, Hero bets $9, raises to $36, Hero calls $27

TURN ($81) A 5 6 4

checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($81) A 5 6 4 6

checks, Hero checks

shows Q A 7 K
(Pre 44%, Flop 62.1%, Turn 80.0%)

Hero shows K T T J
(Pre 56%, Flop 37.9%, Turn 20.0%)

wins $80.50

Shove flop or fine as played? FYI villain is 3betting alot at this stage
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05-21-2010 , 10:25 AM
1817 - nh. I'd prolly bet a tad more on the flop, a little more then half. Still gives villain plenty of room to spew.

1818 - Just calling villain's flop bet seems horrid. Playing it the same. nh.

1819 - This is a tough one. I don't think shoving flop is terrible, but it doesn't happen often at these stakes where villain c/r on the flop like this and then folds to a 3-bet. Villain seems strong on flop and it's tough to put him on a hand like he has because you have both Ks and Js. So if you wanted to steal this sucker, you're going to need to bet both turn and river, but I don't think that's a great play. I think you played it fine, and I'd play it the same.
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05-21-2010 , 10:54 AM
Can someone tell me how much of my stack I need to get in pf to make auto getting allin post flop ok when i have aaxx?
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05-21-2010 , 11:38 AM
no stats rush plo

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($37.83)
BB ($39.79)
UTG ($23.03)
UTG+1 ($27.50)
Hero ($36.86)
BTN ($37.98)

Dealt to Hero 6 8 7 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, SB calls $0.75, fold

FLOP ($1.95) 5 6 2

SB bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

TURN ($5.85) 5 6 2 9

SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB raises to $19.35, Hero raises to $34.06 (AI), SB calls $14.71

RIVER ($73.97) 5 6 2 9 8
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05-21-2010 , 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProphetofProfit
Can someone tell me how much of my stack I need to get in pf to make auto getting allin post flop ok when i have aaxx?
1/3 of ur stack, so if u bet pot ur allin
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05-21-2010 , 12:21 PM
Yet to have a winning month this year, am up 3k this month but am down 7k in the last 3 days. Think im gonna not play for rest of the month to lock it up (4k rakeback thnkgod) Can anyone spot any leaks from my stats , this is my worst run buyin/time wise 3 years as pro any help much appreciated :S

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05-21-2010 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TNUC
Yet to have a winning month this year, am up 3k this month but am down 7k in the last 3 days. Think im gonna not play for rest of the month to lock it up (4k rakeback thnkgod) Can anyone spot any leaks from my stats , this is my worst run buyin/time wise 3 years as pro any help much appreciated :S

pretty brutal
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