tl;dr

Use weaktight.com to convert merge HHs. Only site I've found thus far that works....

thanks

Villain was a 49/36 85% cbet




My toughts:

1) Should i 3bet pré? My hand like a multiway pot, the pf raiser was a 9/7 nit, no reason to isolate right?

2) Easy jam flop? I'm 40/60 vs 2pair and the pot already have 50bb

3) As played, my call by pot odds is ok on the turn?

1 - vs a 9/7 nit flatting is fine. Although this hand likes multi-way pots bc it's a hand that makes the nuts it is also strong enough to raise for pure value ip or oop.

2 - Flatting flop is also fine imo. No need to get it in here, you only have bare NFD. If you get it in here you're behind. Also a million turn cards improve your hand.

3 - Easy turn call. If you didn't pair your J though it's a fold

Well played

I guess I need to fold the turn here?

Villain was loose/passive over a small number of hands.

Really thanks Bompter!

But i still concerned with my flop call. He was really agro, surely bets a big % of his range here, and i have an ok equity even vs 2pair.

The pot is 50bb's already, so i need less equity to make the shove +ev. I guess it's better to shove when i'm "ahead", since a lot of turns will be bad for my hand and will put me in hard decisions

Thoughts?

You're right about needing less equity in big pots for shoves to be +EV. People tend to use something called SPR (stack to pot ratio) to determine how "big" the pot is in relation to their stack.

To work out SPR you divide your stack size by the size of the pot.

Here your SPR (stack to pot ratio) is about 3.5 so you need roughly 43% equity for the shove to be break even.

Here is a table that explains how much equity you need in typical SPR scenarios.



Table is taken from Jeff Hwang: Advanced Pot Limit Omaha Vol I

You'll notice from about SPR 5+ your equity needed to break even only changes by a few percent whereas equity you need for SPR below that change relatively dramatically so it's really important to have an idea about how good you are because you're often gonna find yourself in the low area in 3b pots and there'll be a lot of them.

In a nutshell:

As SPR increases PLO becomes more about "playing poker". In low SPR situations PLO becomes more about whether you have enough equity to stack off on certain flops.

You can use this http://www.propokertools.com/simulations

To match hands up vs certain ranges on different board textures.

For instance:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 469

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsKhTdJs	42.58%	254,837	1,226
KK, AA, 69, 78s9sT, 46, 5s67s8	57.43%	343,937	1,226

Here you have roughly 42% equity on the flop...

...on the turn

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

717,400 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 469J

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsKhTdJs	46.45%	332,001	2,454
KK, AA, 69, 78s9sT, 46, 5s67s8	53.55%	382,945	2,454

These are rough estimates but you get the idea.

Even vs an aggressive villain it really pays to have a pair with your NFD because you gain additional 2 pair outs vs over-pairs and wrap type hands that normally have a pair to go with them.

Here's a table to show you how much of a difference a pair for you makes on the flop.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 46T

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsKhTdJs	55.10%	328,190	4,834
KK, AA, 6T, 78s9sT, 46, 5s67s8	44.90%	266,976	4,834

Also remember that these tables assume no rake. When you take rake into consideration you actually need a bit more equity to account for this.

The ranges I plugged in aren't perfect by any means but they should give you an idea of things.

Hope this helps

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4 betting these AA this deep is a mistake imo.
They don't flop anything you'll be happy stacking off with often enough. Just flat the 3b and play a flop IP. You can set mine at these depths profitably.

As played I think this depends a lot on Villains 3b calling range and how aggressive he is post flop.

Vs a tight oop 3 bettor I'd be more inclined to bet call as this flop rarely hit's V 3b range, is not a good flop for your 4b range, and is a great flop to check raise bluff you off AA.

In general - If you can't get over a 1/3 of your stack in pre with weak AA then it's best just to try and keep the pot small and multi-way.

Awesome feedback, thank you. That all makes sense.

Villain is 29/15, so I don't put many 3s in his utg open range, and it should be very possible for me to have a 3, no?



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14251951

Hero (BB): $12.21 (244.2 bb)
MP: $21.63 (432.6 bb)
CO: $4.80 (96 bb)
BTN: $8.06 (161.2 bb)
SB: $4.88 (97.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J 9 T 7
MP raises to $0.17, CO folds, BTN calls $0.17, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.68) 3 9 3 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40, 2 folds

Turn: ($1.48) K (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, MP calls $1.10

River: ($3.68) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.75, Hero folds

stacks are 100 bbs eff - villan is a random - is this ok? should i fold turn?

$0.25/$0.50 Omaha
Merge
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG DrVortex ($95.11) 190bb
UTG+1 jrohinsky ($49.25) 99bb
CO 6anista ($50.85) 102bb
BTN UnBandolero ($49.25) 99bb
SB abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii ($50.44) 101bb
BB yoosuuaa ($44.70) 89bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) jrohinsky is UTG+1 K 10 J 5
1 fold, jrohinsky raises to $1.75, 2 folds, abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: 9 8 7 ($4, 2 players)
abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii checks, jrohinsky bets $3, abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii calls $3

Turn: A ($10, 2 players)
abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii bets $7.50, jrohinsky calls $7.50

River: 8 ($25, 2 players)
abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii bets $18.50, jrohinsky folds

Final Pot: $43.50

abcdefghiiiiiiiiiiii wins $42.25 (net +$11.25)

jrohinsky lost $12.25

wtf is this. c/r flop

care to explain how i do that?

my bad, fold OTT sure unless villain's super tricky etc

Yes, but if you're going to bluff, wouldn't it be better to check, let MP bet out (which he will probably do with most of his range on this flop) and see what the other two do first? You can use your position relative to the PFR and put in your raise if they both fold.

What line would you take if you did have a 3 (or 99xx)?

EP is playing 43/9 over 270 hands. I have not seen him limp-reraise so far. MP is 24/20 over 1.1k hands. His raise with limpers from MP is 13 (2/16). BTN is playing 49/21 over 1.3k hands. His BTN 3B is 8 and 8 overall. Are you cold calling here?

$0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $49.50
Hero (BB): $63.36
UTG: $87.33
MP: $86.34
CO: $68.68
BTN: $59.28

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.00) Hero has 9 T Q J

UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $1.50, fold, BTN raises to $6.00, fold, Hero

Cold calling and happy to gambool it up multi-way if everyone decides to ship.

Thanks for your response.

OnGame - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $145.65
UTG: $104.00
CO: $106.95
BTN: $106.70
Hero (SB): $103.45

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $2.00) Hero has 8 A 7 T

fold, CO raises to $3.00, fold, Hero raises to $10.00, fold, CO calls $7.00

Flop: ($21.00, 2 players) 3 4 Q
Hero bets $14.00, CO calls $14.00

Turn: ($49.00, 2 players) 8

Villain is 25/18 reg folds 65% to 3 bets, prob more oop, hero is 24/22 5% 3bet

Does anyone fire 2nd barrell here and whats sizing if so?
Thanks guys.

yes I think I 2-barrel for the most part if I c-bet that board texture

The CO is 49/21 over 1.3k hands. Raises 30% hands first-in from the CO and has not folded to a 3B yet. He folds to CBs in 3BP 60% of the time. The BB is 38/25 over 63 hands. He has a 4B after raising of 8% (1/33). This is the second 3B he has called cold and so far he has not folded to a CB in a 3BP (0/2). Do you like a CB here or just give up? Thanks.

$0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $158.06
UTG: $77.33
CO: $53.96
BTN: $67.53

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.00) Hero has T K A 4

fold, CO raises to $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $6.50, BB calls $6.00, CO calls $4.50

Flop: ($19.50, 3 players) 9 5 3
Hero?

villain looks fishy. 22 hands playing 82/18/7. i think most of his 3b range from this position should contain AAxx

i call pf because i'm very deep with him (ok?)
on the flop open ended + backdoor flush, std call
on the turn when he pots again, i'm sure he has AAxx (maybe 23 also but it's the same to me) std call ?
on the river i hit my flush and he shoves. my logic is that because he looks like a fish he might just pot here thinking that his top set is good and not noticing the backdoor flush that hit + all the straight draws missed

wp ? or should i be folding somewhere ?

PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $89.73
SB: $9.06
BB: $19.78
UTG: $25.00
MP: $11.57
CO: $165.07

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8 5 6 3

fold, MP raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2.60, Hero calls $2.60, fold, fold, MP calls $1.85

Flop: ($8.15, 3 players) A 4 5
MP checks, CO bets $7.78, Hero calls $7.78, fold

Turn: ($23.71, 2 players) J
CO bets $22.64, Hero calls $22.64

River: ($68.99, 2 players) 9
CO bets $66.99, Hero calls $56.71 and is all-in

What's his fold to cb in 3b pots? The only hand he could trap you with is QQ so I'd expect to see, Qx, weak pear+draw stuff. He'll jam over you for sure with Q8 & maybe any turned 2p cause the pots so big, but everything else I see folding cause if he had a decent draw otf he would've shoveled it in.



Cold calls worry me. I think he has ok rundowns that include plenty of 9x or overpears like QQ+ neither of which are folding. If we were a lil deeper & knew a bit more about his folding to 2 barrel tendencies then we could contemplate a double, as it is just check fold.
I wouldn't 3b that pre oop btw.


This isn't the type of hand you want to play deep, you want hands that can make the nuts deep, cause that's what you're gonna need to stick a lot of $$$ in the pot!
On the turn I agree with you, it looks like he's trying to protect his AA so therefore we call.
It's the river thats a bitch, I hate to generalize but big bets on the river are almost always the nuts. Sure there's a chance of him spazzing out & jamming cause he doesn't know what to do but I don't think that chance is very high.
Also think about the absolute amount, that's a lot of $$$ for 25plo & he just stuck the lot in, you won't find many people doing that without the nuts.

I'm pretty sure this is a b/c but I'm just checking with you guys anyway.
Villain is an ok reg running 27/22 over ~400 hands at the time. His call open from the SB is 7% & his 3b from the SB is 10% but I'm opening ~11% from ep so he won't be 3betting me often at all.
His c/r is 8% & his fvcb is 46% My flop cb is 77% & my tcb is 60%, so he could be going for a turn c/r with KT/KK/TT
I'd discount them though because I have wraps, oesd+pear stuff that can call his flop c/r so he should c/r.
His c/r turn was 0/11 at the time btw. I think he's got some pear+draws that are hoping I fold my AA to a c/r.

And given that I have 43% vs KT, 30% vs sets & I can potentially be dominating his draws this is a clear get it in right?