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09-12-2009 , 12:56 AM

SeeThomasHowl

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UTG was 40/12 3bet% of 0 over a <30 hand sample. I have bad relative pos + a shorty on the BTN who can reopen the betting w/ a shove. Snap fold?

UTG: $61.90
Hero (MP): $34.43
CO: $32.56
BTN: $9.25
SB: $7.42
BB: $29.10

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 9

UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.10, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.85, UTG raises to $6.60, Hero requests TIME

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09-12-2009 , 01:04 AM

s1`

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snap call 1000000000000000% no shorties can re-open the betting. holy christ if u folded go and bash ur head against the wall until someone posts stop

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09-12-2009 , 01:15 AM

Jacob_Gilliam

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EZ call.

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09-12-2009 , 01:19 AM

SeeThomasHowl

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Originally Posted by s1`

no shorties can re-open the betting.

duh, i need to get more sleep.

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09-12-2009 , 08:49 AM

mdb77

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id probably call but this guy has aces so, so often that ur basically looking to flop a king, even if you flop a fd with it you're never gonna be in great shape

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09-12-2009 , 09:04 AM

LazurusLong2

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Originally Posted by s1`

snap call 1000000000000000% no shorties can re-open the betting. holy christ if u folded go and bash ur head against the wall until someone posts stop

This may be a little strong...

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09-13-2009 , 04:54 AM

Kittens

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Absolutely call, you are only about 70-30 dog at worst but there is heaps of dead money and a good chance the flop will hit this hand. You should be able to use your flop position to outplay UTG.

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09-13-2009 , 05:01 AM

Elrazor

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call, but its more of a *sigh* call than fist pump

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09-13-2009 , 10:36 AM

LazurusLong2

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Originally Posted by Elrazor

call, but its more of a *sigh* call than fist pump

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09-13-2009 , 03:14 PM

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alavet

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in theory fold, in practise |sigh" call as stated

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09-14-2009 , 03:26 PM

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DrBabyEinstein

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there's just too much dead money in the pot to not call. and for the most part even if UTG shows up with AA** you're gonna have the short stacks dominated and win vs. them a lot.

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09-14-2009 , 04:36 PM

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Spurious

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Why is this a fold in theory?

We can flop quite well and stack him often given SPR.

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09-14-2009 , 04:37 PM

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foureightsuited

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You have 38% equity vs AAxx, getting more than 2:1, I would call. Plus he might randomly have worse KK or some kind of rundown, at least call and see a flop.

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09-14-2009 , 05:20 PM

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FinnAndrews

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Originally Posted by alavet

in theory fold, in practise |sigh" call as stated

Also interested in the theoretical just explanation for folding

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09-14-2009 , 07:29 PM

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Xr8ed

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STOP

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09-14-2009 , 07:44 PM

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SeeThomasHowl

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Originally Posted by Xr8ed

STOP

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09-14-2009 , 07:45 PM

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elsterner

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Certainly call here. See a flop and see if you can get your money in at a good spot. Also, most 40/12's are stacking here on a random K hi board.

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09-15-2009 , 12:49 PM

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alavet

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IF shortie really can reopen (and he will, on some sites) calling is bad.
as for my thoughts i thought hero has stack=29$ then callign also bad in my opinion. what flop do u excpect to be happy with, except trips/sraight/two pairs?

msot possibly u wil flo psomething ike pair/or flush draw which suck agaisnt AAxx

with 34$ i think its neutral ev to call.

just my thoughts. i play plo25 and suck as u know.

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09-15-2009 , 06:30 PM

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coldi

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Originally Posted by Xr8ed

STOP

Hammertime?

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09-15-2009 , 07:03 PM

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cobrastatus

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super easy call, not to mention you're 140 bb deep with the limp reraiser and you know what he has. In position depending on how good he is, you will have a lot of bluffing opportunities as well, i.e. if he's bad he's never folding so cross your fingers and hope you flop well.

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09-15-2009 , 10:35 PM

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Maffff

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I actually like AA** 3 betting me here... I really don't mind calling, missing and folding. I quite like calling and bluffing it back off him when the flop goes 456rb or something. 1 in 8 times I hit my K...

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09-15-2009 , 10:37 PM

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SeeThomasHowl

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alright ay, end thread

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09-16-2009 , 04:20 AM

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Elrazor

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Originally Posted by Maffff

i love it when villans try this with KKxx when i have aces

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09-16-2009 , 12:01 PM

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alavet

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you will have a lot of bluffing opportunities as well, i.e. if he's bad he's never folding so cross your fingers and hope you flop well.

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