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possible collusion play at plo5k? possible collusion play at plo5k?

10-18-2010 , 01:10 PM
Hey guys,

At the beginning i would like to stress that I dont want to accuse anybody. I looked at this hand and it seemed rly weird me. I'm not PLO expert that is why I"m makin this thread.

Player w.... is huge loser at PLO, he recently cashed huge prize in live tournament, now he is losing it online. Other two player are known HS plo players. W...... lost to them 76K in about 75 hands LOL.

One of hands:


As I said Im not PLO expert, but wtf is doing pre guy with ttxx and why he leads flop against two players? Why guy with nut flush is not value bettin it on the river 3 handed?

What do you think about it? Should I report it somehow? I'd apreciate opinions from HS PLO players. Thanks in advance.
10-18-2010 , 01:25 PM
lol
10-18-2010 , 01:57 PM
i can't follow the hh its too confusing, but if you suspect something just inform the site your playing on. This isn't prison snitching isn't going to get you killed(I don't think(:0)
10-18-2010 , 02:09 PM
looks like tt92 ds leads the flop and gets called by the nut flush draw.

board pairs on turn, tt92 gives up. nut flush doesn't bet

same actions on river. what makes this look fishy?
it's completely reasonable for tt92 to bluff at this flop. even more reasonable for somebody to call with nfd. they didn't squeeze out the orig pf raiser.

you think it's collusion bc somebody doesn't bet a river on a 8644Q board with a flusH?
10-18-2010 , 02:42 PM
thats exactly what hes saying hence the thread title.

if hes so bad to lose 75k in 75 hands or whatever what makes you think hes smart enough to bet the river with the nut flush assuming the big loser is the guy who checks behind the river.
10-18-2010 , 02:43 PM
i cant believe you wasted your time editing those hand histories
10-18-2010 , 02:45 PM
10-18-2010 , 02:45 PM
This is an unremarkable and fairly standard hand. You should not report it as collusion.
10-18-2010 , 02:59 PM
dont get your sarcazm guys. I stated that this is only question and i'm plo noob. So this is totaly std to call with ttxx pre in reraised pot and not to value bet nut flush on paired board?
10-18-2010 , 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackofhearts
thats exactly what hes saying hence the thread title.

if hes so bad to lose 75k in 75 hands or whatever what makes you think hes smart enough to bet the river with the nut flush assuming the big loser is the guy who checks behind the river.
that is the point, he is player w. and he folds on flop. On the river there are only two regs that played with him.
10-18-2010 , 05:31 PM
I hope you get banned
10-18-2010 , 05:35 PM
ok what is wrong with u guys? this is not a level. Pls mods close this thread
10-18-2010 , 08:23 PM
Which tournament did you win? Did you fold 2 pair on the flop and now you are angry 1 pair won it?
10-18-2010 , 08:34 PM
I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with OP. With the state of the games and all the **** that has happened with online poker (UB superusers, full tilt bots, way back with zeejustin/jjprojidy multiaccounting, chinese DON collusion ring) we should be promoting the flow of free information that helps catch possible cheaters.

OP said he thought it was suspicious and that he is not a "PLO expert" so he came here for clarification. He did not post any names so nobody is being 'defamed' (unless you were also watching the game in question, which I imagine is a v. small % of people) and it wasn't completely unreasonable to think there was collusion happening in a situation like this.

Honestly OP there is absolutely zero downside to reporting this to the site. If there is anything to look into they will find it, if not, no harm done.

If this was the hand most likely to be collusion and everything else you saw you thought was normal, there's probably nothing going on. However if you were watching them play for a while and there were a lot of spots that didn't go to SD that made you think something fishy was going on and this was the only example you could find, then you should certainly report it.

Poker sites have a security department for a reason.
10-18-2010 , 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jekus
dont get your sarcazm guys. I stated that this is only question and i'm plo noob. So this is totaly std to call with ttxx pre in reraised pot and not to value bet nut flush on paired board?
Yes.
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