Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BTN: $10.00
SB: $129.25
Hero (BB): $222.90
UTG: $102.55
CO: $56.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 5 6 6 9
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) 6 J J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG raises to $4.80, Hero calls $3.60

Turn: ($10.85) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $10.35, Hero folds

My note on him is that he is a fish, other than that nothing particular.

He's definately going to bet the turn, so why call the flop raise?

i felt lost and the reason i started the thread basically.

Im guessing you would stick it in if you were only 100BB deep? Why don't we think a fish can commit w trips?

Well it's either way behind or marginally ahead. This could turn out to be a huge mistake in a 200bb pot.

You are right though, I would commit 100bbs deep.

As for the hand, i've found myself equally lost in these spots last couple of days...

The problem is that even if fishy has a random J, we're only a 55/45 favorite. This is more likely than J6, but still. Also, if we 4 bet and rando J calls, our reverse implied odds are terrible, for fishy is going to know if he hit his hand, but we won't, and we're OOP. Fishy would have to be bluffing alot for this to be playable after fishy raises on the flop.

His stats are kinda important. If I'm calling flop, I'm calling turn. We have infinite blockers.

So deep OOP, with an underfull there's not much we can do but to play the hand this way? Excuse me, just learning but it feels like the mission in this hand is to loose the minimum facing aggression?

I agree. However, if we 3b and he folds i feel like we lose value and if he calls we're put in a very awkward spot on the turn. If he 4b u can lay it down i think. Just calling all the way through feels so weak to me.

The only way to play this hand is based off your reads. If you have seen this villain do this with weak hands then call all the way down but if he is like me and would only do this with the nuts then I fold the flop.

I'm not calling the flop raise when deep and OOP, unless villain is extremely spewy/bad. The reason I'm not calling the flop raise is cause, just like you, I'm just gonna be disgusted and check/fold turn everytime. And we know he's gonna pot the turn everytime.

If we are like a 60/40 favorite against a random J on the turn, how can we fold it? I understand that a raise would be pointless because worse hands will only call very rarely, but due to the nature of pot-limit we can call two more capped bets on turn and river easily.
A call-down of two PSBs on turn + river would lay us odds of 4-to-5. So we need about 44% equity which we have.

Am I missing something? I'm just asking because I have no clue about this game.

Because he is going to valuetown us when he fills up, if he hasnt already, and check back the river when he doesnt fill up. Making it -ev

But that could be exploited by folding the river.
Obviously it's not easy to fold the river but still...

dont think he has to have a J even. he could even have over pair and flush draw here.
i probably c/c both streets now, but i like to put in another flop raise

Fold on which rivers tho?

The problem lies in the typical approach taken by a PLO50 player, particularly when 200BBs deep: this line is showing massive strength and the vast majority of the time, he'll be full; in my experience, there aren't many PLO50 players who are even playing AJ like this. Unless you know the guy will completely spazz out when deep, you're really not looking to shovel money into the pot in this particular spot.

I'm not really sure how I'd play the hand, but I don't think OP's line is all that bad at all. When I'm feeling particularly stubborn against an unknown, I might call the turn hoping the river goes check/check, but folding to any real bet, but that makes me feel even dirtier.

I think calling the turn intending to fold the river is the worst possible line.

Let's say we're a coinflip at 50-50 for the hand should we go to showdown for simplicity
How often is he betting the river? Almost 100% of boats. Might check a non-nut boat. There's got to be a % of times when he doesn't fill he'll also bet the river.

That means we only win this pot when two conditions are met. The river is checked and we in fact have the best hand. That line is burning money.

Well, but is he going to turn trips into a bluff more than 1/3 of the time on the river? I mean, he cannot know that we have the underfull, so if he puts us on a jack we could have filled up as well.
So, for him to bluff at the pot, he has to be either crazy or very good.

But on the flop there are only 2 combos of J6 and 1 combo of JJ.

Well, I don't wanna be too stubborn here, maybe I'll learn the nuances of the game one day.

Without a better read on whether he is an aggro/passive fish why donk the flop? Against passive fish you're getting at most 2 streets of value out of any hand worse than trips and this way you give the aggro fish a chance to bluff/bet worse.