pf limp/3better was a 17/1 nit, so he has AAxx here like 99.9% of the time

CO is 58/33/4.5 maniac, but a fishy one
CO was a 55/5 loose fish

I have TP and a mediocre flush draw, we have like ~80% psb behind

Can I profitably shove here?

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $29.25
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $10.80
UTG: $55.30
MP: $46.75
CO: $46.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 T Q 8
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $7, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, Hero calls $6, BB raises to $10.80 all in, 1 fold, MP calls $3.80, CO calls $3.80, BTN calls $3.80, Hero calls $3.80

Flop: ($55.00) 4 3 8 (5 players - 1 is all in)

Hero??

Well you're not going to c/f right? So you might as well put the money in yourself. You may clean up some of your outs this way by getting weak straight draws, or slightly better flush draws(unlikely) to fold.

I'm all in

I don't think anyone is folding a decent fd fwiw. I mean, the last 2 guys to act are fish.

Yeah i dont really think so either, but if you can get a hand like AQ58, that would be a good result.

Moral, if you're not gonna fold, you're better off shoving yourself.

Yah I'm obv shoving or c/f, I just really wasn't sure which was better with this many people behind, and 2 of them who are fish.

I can't imagine ever c/f'ing here. Sure sometimes you maybe up against a bigger flush draw and dominated, but just as often you will be up againt a weak straight draw or 1 naked 1 pr. hand and have great equity in both the side pot and the main pot.

yeah, this hand looks ******ed. you gotta jam though. It honestly doesnt matter if u jam or check call, either he has the equity or he doesn't. You're time to fold was preflop, but i probably call that too.

I think it does matter whether you c/c or jam yourself, because if it gets checked around, and the turn brings one of the villans a card that they can correctly stay in, when they would have folded on the flop, this is bad for us.

but since were almost certain to be called by a better flushdraw, arent we pretty much putting the money in drawing dead?
I mean the best we can hope for is runner straight cards.

I mean if I'm called by one opponent, it's not a bad thing. I have like 36% equity against a naked better flush draw, and 32% equity against a pair + better flush draw.

I'm more worried about being called by 2 or more opponents, where my equity is probably pretty awful.

Pot is so big, it almost doesn't matter. May as well shove.

Looks like consensus was to shove, which is what I did.

Results for anyone interested:


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $29.25
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $10.80
UTG: $55.30
MP: $46.75
CO: $46.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 T Q 8
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $7, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, Hero calls $6, BB raises to $10.80 all in, 1 fold, MP calls $3.80, CO calls $3.80, BTN calls $3.80, Hero calls $3.80

Flop: ($55.00) 4 3 8 (5 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $39.20 all in, MP calls $35.95 all in, CO calls $35.55 all in, BTN folds

Turn: ($162.45) 7 (4 players - 4 are all in)

River: ($162.45) 8 (4 players - 4 are all in)

Final Pot: $162.45
Hero shows 9 T Q 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
BB shows 2 3 3 2 (a full house, Threes full of Eights)
MP shows 4 A T A (two pair, Aces and Eights)
CO shows J 6 5 7 (a straight, Eight high)
BB wins $52.25
(Rake: $110.20)

ouch.

I think that just jamming pre isn't a bad idea with all that dead money in there.

BB is clearly a baller. I shove 2233 all day

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