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04-08-2010 , 08:30 PM
96/37 over 51 hands. I don't really beat anything he value shoves the river with in either of the hands. In the first hand he has a ton of draws he ccs the tu. Hence the vbet.

Boss $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $59.89
Hero (CO): $70.10
BTN: $61.18
SB: $103.06
BB: $38.47

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A K 6 T
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.50) A Q 7 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50, BB folds

Turn: ($16.50) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.00, UTG calls $12

River: ($40.50) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $40.50




Boss $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BTN: $113.96
Hero (SB): $56.05
BB: $45.12
UTG: $153.37
CO: $48.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A J T T
2 folds, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) J 8 A (3 players)
Hero bets $5.50, BB folds, BTN calls $5.50

Turn: ($17.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $17.00, Hero calls $17

River: ($51.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $51.00
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04-09-2010 , 05:32 AM
given villain played basically every hand of your 50 hand sample, you should be able to judge if he is rather passive or aggro. i think this is a major factor in both of your river decisions.
If clueless in this regard, i'd call both just given his vpip.
also i bet turn in hand 2 for sure.

who are you on boss btw? i also played these games lately.
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04-09-2010 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rberg
given villain played basically every hand of your 50 hand sample, you should be able to judge if he is rather passive or aggro. i think this is a major factor in both of your river decisions.
If clueless in this regard, i'd call both just given his vpip.
also i bet turn in hand 2 for sure.

who are you on boss btw? i also played these games lately.
He was aggro pf and on the flop. I was still clueless about how aggro he played turn and rivers. I think it is usually safe to say that people play those streets pretty snug even if they play earlier streers like maniacs. Until I am proven other wise. I make those " I call just because of his vpip" calls alot too. Don't think that is too good of a strategy cause I am still clueless of his backdoor aggression.

I should bet the turn too on the other hand aswell. His range is so wide.

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04-09-2010 , 11:05 AM
Call this guy is insane. He could have anything here.
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04-09-2010 , 11:29 AM
I think Hand 1 is the easier call, the 4 might hit his A4 or 44, but how did he call with 44** that turnbet. A4 is not impossible but the hole hand makes no sence, so call.
In Hand 2 he played pretty much straight forward his flushdraw or naked K-bluff. Not sure about it, but to call down here I think I like to see a few more hands and have better reads, so that I have a few purebluffs and smaller flushes in his range.
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04-09-2010 , 11:47 AM
Hand 1 is easy fold, hand 2 is easy call IMO.

People don't bluff in Hand 1 because when they have KcJcxx or whatever they know you have an Ace and likely aren't folding. In Hand 2, you could easily not even have a flush.
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04-09-2010 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
Hand 1 is easy fold, hand 2 is easy call IMO.

People don't bluff in Hand 1 because when they have KcJcxx or whatever they know you have an Ace and likely aren't folding. In Hand 2, you could easily not even have a flush.
Hehe, exactly the opposite of what I said, I think you might be right here. But what kind of hand do you think villian has in the first hand? I thought easy call, because we might even win against an A with lower kicker and the whole hand makes no sense, especially the shove-donk and the fact that this is not a good thinking player.
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04-09-2010 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ToomuchCoffee
Hehe, exactly the opposite of what I said, I think you might be right here. But what kind of hand do you think villian has in the first hand?
AQxx and A4xx make the most sense.

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I thought easy call, because we might even win against an A with lower kicker and the whole hand makes no sense, especially the shove-donk and the fact that this is not a good thinking player.
People tend to realize when their lines don't represent much that they're likely to get called pretty light, which is why it's generally mostly done with hands seeking value.
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04-09-2010 , 10:13 PM
against loose passive guys on hand #2 it is better to bet the turn and be done with the hand if he calls and bets the river on our check ? On the #1 hand, the short amount I have played PLO, I've only seen boats on a line like that.

Last edited by Grrrauraurauörör; 04-09-2010 at 10:20 PM.
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04-10-2010 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
Hand 1 is easy fold, hand 2 is easy call IMO.

People don't bluff in Hand 1 because when they have KcJcxx or whatever they know you have an Ace and likely aren't folding. In Hand 2, you could easily not even have a flush.
What types of hands he calls the flop and then turns them into a bluff in hand 2 ?
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04-10-2010 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by phenomenal
What types of hands he calls the flop and then turns them into a bluff in hand 2 ?
Lots of straight draws
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04-10-2010 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
Hand 1 is easy fold, hand 2 is easy call IMO.

People don't bluff in Hand 1 because when they have KcJcxx or whatever they know you have an Ace and likely aren't folding. In Hand 2, you could easily not even have a flush.


agree here completely


pretty much most people will play one and done vs a paired ace on the board. the range for people calling when there are two aces on the board is so incredibly narrow (and rightfully so) that most bluffers will give up. the caller will have the ace farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr too often, and trying to bluff someone off when they have trips or better is insane. here, he pretty much knows you have an ace and he still wants your money.

and ya hand 2 is a really easy call.
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