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08-11-2010 , 02:42 PM

skanberg

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 51

PLO400, 6max, eff stacks 100bb.

Villain is an unknown reg, with nittish stats, 21/16/7,4, 12% UTG raise. However, Cbets 80 percent.
The players in the blinds are loose, passive and bad, and they are also the reason Im not folding preflop.

There is no dynamic so far between hero and villain.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($573)
BB ($80)
UTG ($400)
UTG+1 ($70)
Hero ($614)
BTN ($407)

Dealt to Hero 9

UTG raises to $14, fold, Hero calls $14, fold, SB calls $12, BB calls $10

FLOP ($56) A

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $26, Hero calls $26, SB folds, BB folds

TURN ($108) A

UTG bets $62, Hero calls $62

RIVER ($232) A A Q 4

UTG bets $162, Hero calls $162

What do you think of my line?

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08-11-2010 , 02:54 PM

fivetypes

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,058

He has a better FH most of the time but with no history I play the same and take note of what he did

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08-11-2010 , 02:56 PM

HERE_2_gamble_

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,877

i think id fold the river

playing it like you did

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08-11-2010 , 05:22 PM

jjgoldy5

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 658

To those that say call. What's the rationale behind not getting aggressive on the flop and turn here?

Need to get money in quickly while we have the best hand since we'll be guessing later...

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08-11-2010 , 05:50 PM

Mcdonald'sWorker

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 293

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Originally Posted by jjgoldy5

To those that say call. What's the rationale behind not getting aggressive on the flop and turn here?

Need to get money in quickly while we have the best hand since we'll be guessing later...

It doesn't make much of a difference to the overall outcome of the hand. If you do, 'get it in' on the the flop its unlikely that villan's gonne be folding an ace, with that said.. villan's range in terms of kicker is most likely going to be a King or a Jack.

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08-11-2010 , 06:02 PM

emokid

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 132

I thinks he has quads, and would berate him in the chat after calling the river.

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08-11-2010 , 06:15 PM

Haystacks

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 333

Would an apparently nittish player fire three times without Aces full (or quads)? If he doesn't have it then he has to be wary that you do after you called him on the flop with two players behind you.

I think you can get away from this one on the turn or river.

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08-12-2010 , 05:47 AM

PtasiGryps

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10

guys do U ever consider raising the flop?

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08-12-2010 , 05:57 AM

alekhine11

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,637

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Originally Posted by Haystacks

Exactly.Nitty players OOP do not follow up on that turn without the nizzles.

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guys do U ever consider raising the flop?

As long as you are capable of raise/folding,I see no problem.

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08-12-2010 , 09:36 AM

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CZI

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,351

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Originally Posted by HERE_2_gamble_

i think id fold the river

playing it like you did

Agreed.

I might raise flop against a really loose/bad player who'll just stackoff with any ace thinking he's got the world.

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08-12-2010 , 09:48 AM

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MATT111

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,008

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Originally Posted by PtasiGryps

guys do U ever consider raising the flop?

I think raising the flop is probably right, because I expect the bad players in the blinds not to fold an ace anyway and we want to protect our hand.

There is little value to be gained by slowplaying.

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08-12-2010 , 10:26 AM

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glakofahn

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 315

After he fires the flop four ways and continues down to the river, I think it's a fold—especially since he's opened UTG, but this qualification might not even be necessary. I wouldn't expect a player like this to play a flush draw so, and such players are known to check AT** on the river here. I'm not a fan of raise/folding the flop; while I agree that the blinds can call with a naked A*, I think that AQ is not the only hand to 3-bet this flop and I'd hate to fold to worse slightly less than I'd hate to get it in drawing dead.

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08-12-2010 , 10:30 AM

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RiverIsMyFriend

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 192

why do we judge this guy's postflop tendency by his preflop stats? if he's any good he should take advantage of his tight image and play aggressively postflop, right?

i think i want to flat the cbet and shove over the turn. what would he do when he bet the turn with AKxx and river doesn't improve his hand?

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