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09-10-2010 , 10:36 AM

Leroy2DaBeroy

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Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $25.00
BTN: $63.37
SB: $53.25
BB: $50.79
UTG: $104.21
Hero (MP): $103.74

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 7

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.90, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.05

Flop: ($6.15) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($6.15) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.15, CO raises to $22.10 all in, Hero calls $15.95

Turn play okay?

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09-10-2010 , 10:42 AM

mnl

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4bet pre. turn ok

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09-10-2010 , 10:55 AM

z0mgtiltz

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This is a clear 4bet pre.

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09-10-2010 , 12:20 PM

llabwol

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no, you should be c-betting

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09-10-2010 , 12:34 PM

Mt.FishNoob

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doubles suited connected aces(87!)+position=rapid fire pot clicking pre

flop is easy cbet, but its tricker as you didn't 4bet pre....

as played on turn depends on how wide the 4xxx,55xx,66xx.33xx.22xx is. Often it is it narrow enough to fold... no wait Its easy call sorry c:f= 2$:0

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09-10-2010 , 01:08 PM

Maffff

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4-bet pre.

As you didn't, I'd try to c/r this flop.

As played I really like the turn play and would expect my AA to be good in itself a decent amount of the time.

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09-10-2010 , 01:14 PM

Leroy2DaBeroy

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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob

So is there no PF deception factor with AA? It's always pot pot pot get it in?

And how much of the range you gave him 3! PF?

My thinking at the time was that he's likely got AA himself or maybe KK**ds or something. Against that range, I can c/r both dryish flops (to target the KK** hands) and I can donk wettish flops (to target the AA** hands).

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09-10-2010 , 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

So is there no PF deception factor with AA? It's always pot pot pot get it in?

with powerful aces such as these if you can get a 4bet in with position you just do it, even oop, any stack sizes... this hand really is monster premium, only about 25% of flops are dodgy HU in position and about 40% of them hit our hand very hard

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And how much of the range you gave him 3! PF?

eh?

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My thinking at the time was that he's likely got AA himself or maybe KK**ds or something. Against that range, I can c/r both dryish flops (to target the KK** hands) and I can donk wettish flops (to target the AA** hands).

premium hands come in pair form and rundown form, 'CO 3bets to isolate opener' are pretty wide also, I might 3bet as CO here with a hand as low as ~T956ss provided BTN wasn't a strong player, So you can't narrow COs range so far to KKxx AAxx unless he has a very nitty 3bet% he could have KQJTds and lower

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09-10-2010 , 01:58 PM

Leroy2DaBeroy

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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob

eh?

I was just asking how many of the 55xx, 66xx, 33xx, 4xxx, 22xx hands 3! PF. You touch on it in your last paragraph...

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09-10-2010 , 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

I was just asking how many of the 55xx, 66xx, 33xx, 4xxx, 22xx hands 3! PF. You touch on it in your last paragraph...

without reads on his betting patterns can't say, the more solid he is the lower they weight pre and the more solid the higher they weight post so its balanced annoyingly aswell... with the exception of rundowns 4xxx because these can be good hands to isolate with

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09-10-2010 , 02:56 PM

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4bet all day long

flop cr is fine

turn bc is fine

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