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04-22-2011 , 03:28 PM

Cr@ckers717

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Villain is 58/19/3.4 over 20 hands, no other reads. Best line OTT?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9122472

MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $37.50 (150 bb)
BTN: $64.22 (256.9 bb)
SB: $49.10 (196.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (200 bb)
UTG: $78.88 (315.5 bb)

Preflop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with A

CO posts BB OOP, 2 folds, CO checks, BTN raises to $1.40, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.85, CO folds, BTN calls $3.45

Flop: ($10.35) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7

Turn: ($24.35) T

(2 players)

Hero ???

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04-22-2011 , 03:31 PM

Tsajajaja

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04-22-2011 , 03:58 PM

vap3

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Why are you raising with aaxx oop? Wouldn't it be better just to cold call and see if you flop top set? How can you justify getting it in with top pair and no redraw this deep?

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04-22-2011 , 04:01 PM

vap3

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Oh my bad didn't see bottom two ... Still don't like your 3bet though

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04-22-2011 , 04:04 PM

Dap Dippin

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With those stats I want to believe that he is pretty floaty (I am just making guesswork here, so you can either confirm or deny that). If that is the case though I kind of like a c/r. It might be a little fancy pants, and now that I am thinking about it and seeing that we only have 20 hands on villain I would probably save that for a villain I have more hands and history with.

Betting out is the safest play here.

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04-22-2011 , 04:35 PM

Tsajajaja

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Originally Posted by vap3

Why are you raising with aaxx oop? Wouldn't it be better just to cold call and see if you flop top set?

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Originally Posted by vap3

Still don't like your 3bet though

we have a new troll

no just kidding, if u were serious there is rarely a reason not to 3-20bet ds aces any deep any position

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04-22-2011 , 04:54 PM

vap3

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Really? I thought playing aaxx oop is like calling 3bets oop with a marginal hand in nlhe :0

In PLO I was taught ip is the nuts and hands like aaxx let's say utg better to limp call than bet/call 3bet

Forgot to add if the villain has less than 60bb then it's correct to get it all in pre with aaxx?

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04-22-2011 , 05:05 PM

Tsajajaja

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Originally Posted by vap3

Really? I thought playing aaxx oop is like calling 3bets oop with a marginal hand in nlhe :0

there is a big dif. between random aces and doublesuit aces. With this hand we flop straight/flushdraw or set like 95% of time if my experimentalism is correct

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In PLO I was taught ip is the nuts and hands like aaxx let's say utg better to limp call than bet/call 3bet

who the **** taught u this ****!? example 100bb stacks u open 3.5bb with aces UTG and some1 3bets. I get orgasm every time that happens because I get enough in pf with 4bet any aces and can go broke on most of flops

but in generaly ip is nuts yeah

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Forgot to add if the villain has less than 60bb then it's correct to get it all in pre with aaxx?

U want to get all money in with AAxx any deep unless u think some1 else has aces. Then we can do other stuff.

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04-22-2011 , 10:31 PM

Cr@ckers717

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Originally Posted by Dap Dippin

These were my thoughts exactly and I decided to go for c/r. Although:

[hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9124212

MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $37.50 (150 bb)
BTN: $64.22 (256.9 bb)
SB: $49.10 (196.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (200 bb)
UTG: $78.88 (315.5 bb)

Preflop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with A

CO posts BB OOP, 2 folds, CO checks, BTN raises to $1.40, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.85, CO folds, BTN calls $3.45

Flop: ($10.35) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7

Turn: ($24.35) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($24.35) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15, Hero ???

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04-23-2011 , 12:10 AM

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monkover

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snip snap, he bets JT on the turn and ur hand is really underreped

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04-23-2011 , 05:24 AM

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Tsajajaja

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cr cant be ideal w/o more reads.

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04-23-2011 , 06:41 AM

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PedeBT

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Fold the river. I don't know which hands you think your Villain has. But if we set him on a hand like two big cards (A K Q J) and two middle (T 9 8 7) he will be a 57,5 % favorite on the river againt you.

Then you have to take your own reads into the conclusion and sice you don't really have a good sample of hands og anything else I think u should fold the river and save ur money for a better spot.

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