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PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy

03-19-2010 , 01:05 AM
Hand #1
Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $303.05
CO: $50.65
BTN: $222.50
SB: $200.00
BB: $219.10
UTG: $74.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with 8 T 9 6
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BTN raises to $30, 3 folds, Hero calls $21

Flop: ($65.00) T K 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $54.00,

Hand #2
Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $238.50
MP: $62.35
CO: $393.00
BTN: $329.85
SB: $108.00
Hero (BB): $238.65

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with K J A Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $19, BTN calls $13

Flop: ($39.00) 3 9 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $28.00, BTN calls $28

Turn: ($95.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $64.00, Hero raises to $191.65


Villain is the same on both hands.
He is 18/14/4.3, 5.9% 3bet (3K+ hands)
Cbet in 3bet pot 73% (44)
Fold 74% vs cbet 3bet pot, raise 17%

I have some notes on him, like he's capable of bluff raising paired and A hi boards, donkbetting nut flush draw on a multiway 458 board, etc.
But no specific reads in 3bet pots, just the stats.

Hero runs something like 24/16, with low 3bet (~4%).

In hand 1, should I get in? His bet sizing suggest that he's not folding.

In hand 2, what do you think about turn c/r? I cbet because he had a high fold to cbet %.

And please, feel free to criticize any other street.
Thank you.
PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy Quote
03-19-2010 , 01:15 AM
hand 1 i chuck it on the flop, you have non-nut everything, and his 3bet is low enough that most of his range is going to smack this pretty good, especially considering your middle rundown hand makes it alot less likely he 3bet with a mid rundown himself and has complete air on this flop, so even if u are ahead now u prob won't be for very long.

hand 2 i think c/r is good if he bets his entire range on the turn. otherwise i prob just c/c. hard to say w/o reads but from his agg factor it sounds like he's the type to just get it in with any wrap/pair+gutter on the flop, so i don't think he has the nuts here very often unless it's like KKJT,QQJT, both of which are unlikely considering our hand.

Last edited by snark; 03-19-2010 at 01:22 AM.
PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy Quote
03-19-2010 , 01:49 AM
Hand 1 - CR get it in

Hand 2 - I like if you think he's stealing the turn a ton.
PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy Quote
03-19-2010 , 02:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaBalla
Hand 1 - CR get it in
u really think we have are doing that great against anything he wants to felt? I feel like he's not cbetting anything except complete air or get it in hands on this wet of a flop, so what hands are we hoping he has? I guess with the dead money it makes sense but it feels pretty gross? Need approx 43% to get it in assuming he wants to felt (190/(119+190+130)). Seems neutral at best.

board: Kh 9d Th Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Tc 9h 8c 6h 39.02% 232,041 4,213
KK**, AhMhMM,AhBhBB,TTMM,AKQT,QJT9,AQJ9,AKQ9,AKJ9,AKJT 60.98% 363,746 4,213
PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy Quote
03-19-2010 , 09:09 AM
Excellent hands to post.

My first thought in hand one was: LOL c/shove fist pump. Then I stoved it and it looks a lot worse than I thought.

If we assume he rr top 10% PF and cbets 100% we only have 40.4%. Now if he rr even tighter and/or if he cbets selectively and checks back hands we do well against its even worse. Its surprising to me, but c/f doesnt look that bad unless he rr a lot wider.



Hand 2 is tricky imo. With just a tad deeper stacks I would find it perfect. But it annoys me that we cant c/r full pot here. Otoh hand it feels gross to bet/call and bet/fold as well. Sorry, I cant add anything more brilliant than this
PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy Quote
03-19-2010 , 12:14 PM
Getting it in in hand 1 seems idiotic. You shouldn't go wild in these 3bet pots just because you have a crappy 2pair+fd, especially vs a decent looking guy.

In hand 2 i really don't like it either, wouldn't you bet out JT? And doesn't hit 3bet/c range really hit this turn?...I don't like the c/r here even though it is better than b/f and c/f.
PLO200 - Two 3bet pots against same guy Quote
03-19-2010 , 12:20 PM
I would lean towards bet/calling the turn in hand two rather than c/r because of stacks.
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