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PLO200 - KKxx, std stack off flop? PLO200 - KKxx, std stack off flop?

09-16-2010 , 01:13 AM
Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 929375
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BB: $181.55
UTG: $193.00
CO: $307.00
Hero (BTN): $254.50
SB: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with T Q K K
1 fold, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, CO calls $15

Flop: ($45.00) 8 2 Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $32.00, CO raises to $131,

Villain had only played a few orbits, but we had already played together before (reads/stats below).
That was the first 3bet PF that he saw from me. I run 24/18, ~5% 3bet.

Stats (1.6k hands):
22/18/4, 37% fold to 3bet.
40% fold to cbet 3bet pot, 20% raise (10)


Notes:
3bet JT58ds blinds vs btn, cbet/shove JK5r with 2bd fd
3bet 9955ss blinds, cbet strong AKx 2tone, pot turned bottom set
raise bluff JJxr 3WAY


Obviously, he's not folding anymore.
Stack off?
Do you guys prefer a check behind? Bet/fold?

Thank you!
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09-16-2010 , 01:16 AM
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09-16-2010 , 01:29 AM
standard
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09-16-2010 , 01:42 AM
i think i like a check better than a b/c.
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09-16-2010 , 01:42 AM
whats he c/r other than 22** 88** Q8** here?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 82Q
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KhKdQhTc56.34% 333,3929,266
Q***,9TJ*43.66% 257,3429,266

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 82Q
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KhKdQhTc16.80% 100,725159
88**83.20% 499,116159

Can't see shoving this line being any good,
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09-16-2010 , 02:18 AM
Quote:
whats he c/r other than 22** 88** Q8** here?
his most likely hand by far is something like JT98

I expect to have ~50% equity when we get it in here

Quote:
i think i like a check better than a b/c.
your cbet range is way too weak/polarized if you are consistently checking this hand back
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09-16-2010 , 02:34 AM
Against the bottom of his range we have 56%, that is not enough to stack off 125bbs after putting in 26 is it? the middle of his range we have about 37% and the top of his range we have 16.8%

I suppose due to the less amount of possible combos neat the top then its pretty breakeven to shove, however maybethe combos nearer the bottom of his range are more inclined to bet out rather than c/r...
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09-16-2010 , 08:08 AM
The most usual hand to have when c-raising the pf3bettor on these flops seems to be a pair+gutshot type hand. Definitely a standard stackoff with the queen blocker and backdoor draws.
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09-16-2010 , 08:29 AM
+1
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09-16-2010 , 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
whats he c/r other than 22** 88** Q8** here?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 82Q
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KhKdQhTc56.34% 333,3929,266
Q***,9TJ*43.66% 257,3429,266

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 82Q
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KhKdQhTc16.80% 100,725159
88**83.20% 499,116159

Can't see shoving this line being any good,
you are a funny player...
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