Main villain is decent nitty reg with 27/18/7, but has a donkbet 25 %.
So we flop the nuts, now what?
My first idea was to flat and shove every non-diamond turn, because of hes weak donk bet range and some barrel-happiness. Also shortie behind makes it imo better choise, because he might shove and then we can repop. But does raising has any merit with these stacks? Thoughts?
e: and before someone says we don't have nuts.. ..he/she/it is correct. But money is going in anyways if we raise and he shoves, so it doesn't matter.
is basicly the nuts given pf action and A blocker.
but i raise on the flop, he could get spazy overprotecting with A6 and/or potting with like top pair +K/Q fd. he can have 7766 too...
also shorty will commit anyway with anything decent, no need to lure him in and let BB set his own price to see a turn.
lot of turns will complete straight draws and flushes and will kill your action if he has a hand like A6xx 6677
he wont fold FDs and will sometimes pick up more equity on turn which will allow you to get one big bet more out of him.
If it's rainbow I don't hate a flat cause his range will be Axxx heavier (i.e. you give a near-dead hand the opportunity to catch up a bit) and there are less turns you lose action or get outplayed on. Twotone, I can't imagine flatting being the play.
depends with which hands villain will go broke and how frequent he will second barrels the turn here and how light SB ist shoving over our flat...with SB in the hand and knowledge that villain 2nbarrels here quiete often I would flat
but this very villain dependent in my opionon and you also should have a good mix here
I actually thought about flatting just because here hes range is so AdXd heavy (imo people don't often have tendencies to donk non-nut fd's on A-high boards, so wraps are irrelevant, I think(?)). Ofc by flatting we give him change to catch up free, but because he is barrel-happy, he will keep betting almost every card and then we can repop him bigger ott, and maybe rep some combodraw. If we raise otf, then we just have to check every diamond ott. Some flaws on my thinking?
If it's rainbow I don't hate a flat cause his range will be Axxx heavier (i.e. you give a near-dead hand the opportunity to catch up a bit) and there are less turns you lose action or get outplayed on. Twotone, I can't imagine flatting being the play.
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Originally Posted by this_passing
raise because he's nfd heavy and shouldn't be folding it
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Originally Posted by CZI
If you think he is very Adxdxx heavy, you should always raise, cause you're ahead and he isn't folding, possibly shoving.
I actually thought about flatting just because here hes range is so AdXd heavy (imo people don't often have tendencies to donk non-nut fd's on A-high boards, so wraps are irrelevant, I think(?)). Ofc by flatting we give him change to catch up free, but because he is barrel-happy, he will keep betting almost every card and then we can repop him bigger ott, and maybe rep some combodraw. If we raise otf, then we just have to check every diamond ott. Some flaws on my thinking?
WTF we dont have the nuts!!! lol.... sorry i just had to
seems completely logical....i actually love your thinking and this line is pretty sexy...i dunno how often id take the line, but against a reg i run into a lot...This line does a lot more later then it does in just this hand...gives you so many windows to out play and F with him in other hands...
We don't have the "nuts" on half of turn cards (diamonds or bring a possible straight). I think because of that we have to raise the flop while we know we are ahead.
If the turn comes, say, 5 of clubs, are we happy raise/getting it in? I don't think so.
The only caveat is if we think the shortie is super super agro and shoving anything that looks decent, but that is an unlikely scenario.